Electrical isues

Tiny
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  • 1994 CHRYSLER TOWN AND COUNTRY
  • 3.8L
  • 6 CYL
  • 2WD
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  • 195,000 MILES
Lights, chimes coming on by themselves.
Friday, November 3rd, 2017 AT 2:24 PM

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Tiny
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Driving one day, when I hit a bump a chime sounded and the third brake light flashed. This continued for a few miles.

Then a little while later when a bump was hit not only did the chime sound and the third brake light come on, but the second from the front, interior light also flashed.

Then a few more miles down the chime sounded, third brake light flashed, the second from the front interior light flashed and also the dashboard instrument started to display that the driver door was open.

Then when I was about two miles from home, all of the above started to do their thing non-stop continuously.

This happened a week ago. I am afraid to drive the vehicle for fear of it breaking down somewhere. In the mean time I have been frantically searching for a cause to this problem. So far no luck. For sure this cannot be the only second generation Chrysler, Dodge or Plymouth mini van to have this issue.
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Friday, November 3rd, 2017 AT 3:05 PM
Tiny
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Real easy and common fix. Your clue was the "door open" message. Look at the door switch on the "B" pillar. It has a plunger that's about 3/8" in diameter. It also has a plastic "nail", as I call it, in the middle. That nail is the self-adjuster. It has moved in too far, so the switch is turning on when the door vibrates open a little.

To keep this from happening again, there is a tiny hole where you can stick a pick to pull that nail out. If you simply pull it out about 3/8", it will self-adjust by itself the next time you close the door. To prevent this from happening again, pull that nail all the way out, then slide on three M5 lock washers, (or regular washers if you can find some that small). Push the nail back in that way. The lock washers will limit how far the nail can go in.

When I did this at the dealership, I added a touch of "professionalism" by using a tube of black touch-up paint to paint the washers so they did not stick out like a sore thumb.

A similar problem can occur with the sliding door switch, but that is of a different style, with a different solution.
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Friday, November 3rd, 2017 AT 3:57 PM
Tiny
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Wow! Thanks for the fast response. I just got home from running errands. It is dark out right now. I am going to do what you said to do tomorrow morning.

I have parked the van until I knew exactly was wrong with it. I will give you an update tomorrow. I will not be able to get to it until around noon.

The last time I drove a car with some type of electrical issue the voltage regulator was on the way out and ended up causing a lot of damage.
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Friday, November 3rd, 2017 AT 5:32 PM
Tiny
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There were no lock washers to track down right away. I have a 1993 Caravan for parts. Cross referenced the part number with a 1994 Town and Country. They were the same. Used the switch from the 1993, problem solved.

By then my son found some lock washers. So we pulled the "nail" out and put the lock washers on the old switch and will save that switch for future repairs.

I like the way you think. I like the idea of painting the washers so that they are less noticeable.

I was looking and looking on forums for the solution but to know avail. The van was down for a week. I did not drive it until I was sure what the issue was. It is running fine now. Thanks again for your fast response.
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Sunday, November 5th, 2017 AT 6:47 AM
Tiny
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Happy to hear you solved it. The old switch is not defective and did not need to be removed. Just pry that nail out 1/8" or more and you're done. It might not cause that problem again for years. The washers are just to insure it doesn't happen again.

Once you have that nail pried out, it will self-adjust the first time you close the door. Sometimes they over-adjust if the door is slammed really hard. That can also happen if the weatherstrip is badly deteriorated and torn away. That lets the door close too far, then the switch over-adjusts.

Instead of washers, you can also pull the nail all the way out, squirt a little RTV gasket sealer from a tube in there, (even bath tub caulk), then push the nail in. Once the sealer cures in a few hours, it will do the same thing the washers would do.
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Monday, November 6th, 2017 AT 5:47 PM
Tiny
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I like the washer idea, but will keep the caulking idea also. I just posted a question about gas smell in my 98 Ranger. I appreciate your expertise.
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Tuesday, November 7th, 2017 AT 7:43 AM

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