ECU and TCM do not show up on my scan tool?

Tiny
ANDRIN ATEM
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  • 2007 NISSAN MURANO
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VIN JN8AZ08W07W657380

I bought a new ECU and a BCM, so I tried to program my key, on the network can bus, ECU and TCM does not show on the network, which makes it impossible to program a key.
I have attached screenshots of the modules it was able to see. Below are the images as well for my used ECU and TCM, just bought both. Please can you also help me check to know if those parts are compatible for this VIN JN8AZ08W07W657380. BCM Q 284B1CC21A Calsonic Kamari.
Wednesday, April 10th, 2024 AT 2:31 PM

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Tiny
STEVE W.
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What was the reason to replace both parts? Failure or? If they are not showing up, then it is likely that they need to be programmed to operate in your vehicle. They are not plug and play items unless they are brand new and never initialized, even bench testing them on typical equipment can make them into bricks unless you use the OE tool and web site to program them. The way it is supposed to work is that you test the vehicle, discover the ECM is bad. You buy a new ECM from the dealer and install it. That ECM talks to the original BCM and loads a configuration from it. Then you program in the keys. Or the BCM is bad, you replace it with a new one and initialization takes place from the original ECM. Replace both at the same time and now you need to use the Consault to program both. Then you can initialize the keys.
Looking at the part numbers the ECM should be either 23710CB820 without dynamic stability or 23710CC23C if it has stability control.
The BCM depends on the trim level and option package but the number you posted doesn't show on the attached list.
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Wednesday, April 10th, 2024 AT 3:05 PM
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Thank you very much, I did not cross my mind at all. The body and the ECU was stolen. Which is why I bought used parts on Ebay.
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Thursday, April 11th, 2024 AT 5:34 AM
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STEVE W.
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That would be the problem. The used parts need to be programmed first. Normally I do the ECM first then any other modules.
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Thursday, April 11th, 2024 AT 9:40 AM
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I do the ECM first! I do not fully understand. How then do I do it first? Normally what I am used to with used parts, when I plug the ECM, I should be able to see it on the network, then I program the key. Or could it be that the ECM is Virginia’s? Because it’s a used ECU. I am just a bit confused by how I need to program an ECM which does not appear on the network list.
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Thursday, April 11th, 2024 AT 11:28 AM
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My Murano has the keyless entry, I think you are right when you said the code number, I sent for the BCM I bought does not show up the list. Then I think my BCM must be the trouble.
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Thursday, April 11th, 2024 AT 11:38 AM
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STEVE W.
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Because it is used you also don't really know if it works. However, we will assume it does. You need a scan tool or laptop that can use a J2534 device to program the modules, then you go to https://www.nissan-techinfo.com/J2534.aspx and verify that the software will work with your device. Then you pay them and install the software and use it to re-program the ECM. Then you use it to program the BCM. Once they are both finished, they should now show up in the system and let you program the keys back in.
If you have never done JBox programming there are a lot of videos about it on YouTube.
Like this one - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s1hC1gqfl8
and this one - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-Dvir4CEV4
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Thursday, April 11th, 2024 AT 11:42 AM
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Please take a look at the seller's condition on eBay for same part ECU I bought. Does this mean reprogramming is only for keys or does it mean the OEM?

I have an Autel maxisys 908p
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Thursday, April 11th, 2024 AT 12:12 PM
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STEVE W.
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Looks like it needs the OEM reflash. At least that is what I would expect with any used ECU as they need to have the correct VIN and more to operate. The Part number is the same for a few different models, it is the software that gets installed that makes it work with your car.
That Autel should have came with a J2543 box. However, you still need the Nissan specific programming software. The Autel may allow you to use it but check the list at Nissan about the hardware needed as some makes are very specific about the tools used.
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Thursday, April 11th, 2024 AT 12:47 PM
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Thank you.
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Thursday, April 11th, 2024 AT 8:48 PM
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STEVE W.
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You're welcome. Hope it programs properly on the first try. I've had to fight with a few of them. Be sure to have a charger/power supply connected and the programming tools hardwired. You don't want signals to get corrupted.
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Friday, April 12th, 2024 AT 4:43 PM
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Sure thanks.
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Sunday, April 14th, 2024 AT 3:24 AM
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Wednesday, April 17th, 2024 AT 9:59 AM

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