Cranks but no start

Tiny
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  • 2009 CHEVROLET HHR
  • 2.0L
  • 4 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 130,000 MILES
Warm wont start been running fine. Crank in start position and keeps cranking In the on position with no start and sounds like weak compression.
Monday, April 22nd, 2019 AT 1:12 AM

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Tiny
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Good morning,

You need spark, fuel pressure and compression for it to run.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-engine-compression

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-fuel-system-pressure-and-regulator

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-an-ignition-system

You need to check all three to determine what is at fault.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-cranks-but-wont-start

Roy
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Monday, April 22nd, 2019 AT 2:36 AM
Tiny
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Could low oil cause no start? As it has a oil driven timing control through the cam phasers maybe not closing valves all the way causing low compression. Also keeps cranking when the key returns to "on" from the "start" position. Pulled codes, found U0073.
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Monday, April 22nd, 2019 AT 3:17 PM
Tiny
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Got it.

The U code is a serial data line issue.

No to the low oil.

Do you have a scan tool that can communicate with all the modules?

Roy

DTC U0073

Circuit Description

The GMLAN serial data circuits are controller area network (CAN) high and/or low speed serial data buses used to communicate information between the control modules. Typical data transmission speeds must be high enough to ensure that a required real-time response is maintained. There are two different types of GMLAN serial data circuits, the High speed 2-wire circuit and Low speed single wire circuit. Refer to Data Link References (See: Information Bus > Initial Inspection and Diagnostic Overview > Data Link References) for the complete description of the buses used on this vehicle. The GMLAN serial data circuits also communicate directly to the data link connector (DLC). Messages are interpreted by the externally connected CANdi module which acts as a transceiver for the scan tool.

Modules connected to the GMLAN serial data circuits monitor communications during normal vehicle operation, where operation information is exchanged among the modules. All the modules on the GMLAN networks, maintain a transmit error counter (TEC) and a receive error counter (REC). The counter values increase with detected errors and will decrease with error-free messages. If the TEC value exceeds 255, the controller removes itself from the network and DTC U0073 will result.

DTC Descriptor

This diagnostic procedure supports the following DTC:

DTC U0073 Controller Area Network (CAN) Bus Communication

Conditions for Running the DTCs

* Supply voltage to the modules are in the normal operating range.
* The vehicle is in the RUN power mode.

Conditions for Setting the DTC

The module setting the DTC has attempted to establish communications on the GMLAN circuits for more than 7 times.

Action Taken When the DTCs Sets

* The module suspends all message transmission.
* The module uses default values for all parameters received on the serial data circuits.
* The module inhibits the setting of all other communication DTCs.

Conditions for Clearing the DTC

* A current DTC clears when the malfunction is no longer present.
* A history DTC clears when the module ignition cycle counter reaches the reset threshold, without a repeat of the malfunction.

Diagnostic Aids

* This DTC cannot be retrieved with a current status. Diagnosis of a current DTC is accomplished via the symptom, Scan Tool Does Not Communicate with High and/or Low Speed GMLAN Device. Refer to Control Module References (See: Vehicle > Programming and Relearning) for the correct procedure for the specific module(s) and the busses they use to communicate.
* An intermittent condition is likely to be caused by a short on the GMLAN serial data circuits. Use the Scan Tool Does Not Communicate with High and/or Low Speed GMLAN Device procedure in order to isolate an intermittent condition. Refer to Control Module References (See: Vehicle > Programming and Relearning) for the correct procedure for the specific modules.
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Monday, April 22nd, 2019 AT 3:25 PM

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