Crankshaft position sensor replacement? Old sensor snapped.

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RDAWSON127
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  • 2005 DODGE DAKOTA
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Bought a new (non Mopar) sensor and installed it due to the rubber gasket being broke and leaking oil. The old sensor snapped and I had a heck of a time getting it out. Well never did I have a check engine light light or code for this sensor, until new one was installed. Now I get Vrnk shaft, multi misfire, camshaft codes and occasional stall and rwv limit of 2,500 rpm's. Once I stop and wait say many 2 hours and restart it it runs fine for a while then same thing. It drops to 0 rpm loses power and then RPM's rise again and engine turns back to normal but with a 2,500 rpm's limit.
Monday, October 14th, 2019 AT 10:34 AM

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Tiny
KASEKENNY
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Hi,

You could have a bad sensor however, if you have not learned the CKP sensor then that will cause the type of issues you are getting. When replacing the sensor the PCM needs to learn the new sensor so it can locate the windows of the tone wheel.

You need a scan tool to do this but before we do that try to do what is called a TLC relearn. That means go to a safe location and accelerate up to 65 MPH and then decelerate down to under 40 MPH with no brake or accelerator input. Do this 4 times in a row and it will force a relearn procedure. This may cause the PCM to relearn the crank as well. If this doesn't work then we will need to have a scan tool and perform a crank relearn procedure. That should correct the concern. Here is a guide to help you step by step with instructions in the diagrams below to show you how on your car.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/crankshaft-angle-sensor-replacement

Check out the diagrams (Below). Please let us know if you need anything else to get the problem fixed. Thanks
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Monday, October 14th, 2019 AT 4:58 PM
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RON VAN D
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I was trying to change out the crankshaft position sensor and the front snapped off. I tried to get it with a pair of needle nose pliers an it fell into the oil pan. What do I do now?
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Sunday, January 10th, 2021 AT 11:49 AM (Merged)
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I'd ignore it and pop in a new sensor. That piece is going to land in the lower part of the pan where the oil pump pickup tube sits, and that has a screen on it to prevent those parts from being sucked up. The screen sits too close to the bottom of the pan for that sensor to become lodged under it and block oil flow. You can pick the piece out some day when you have to remove the pan to replace it or to reseal it.
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Sunday, January 10th, 2021 AT 11:49 AM (Merged)
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JEREALD123
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The check engine code on my truck said I needed a crankshaft sensor. I have looked but could not locate the sensors location. So can you please help me in finding where it is at exactly? A picture of its location would be extremely helpful.
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Sunday, January 10th, 2021 AT 11:49 AM (Merged)
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WRENCHTECH
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It is on the right rear of the block, behind the starter.

https://www.2carpros.com/images/external/91107313.gif
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Sunday, January 10th, 2021 AT 11:49 AM (Merged)
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TIFFANY WINGATE
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My crankshaft position sensor broke off in the housing when trying to replace it. Can someone please tell me what is located directly behind the sensor? We have tried drilling a hole through the old sensor and using a screw to pull it out but was unsuccessful. We have tried to pry the old sensor out with another failure. I know that dropping the oil pan would be the proper thing to do in this situation. I need to know what is directly behind the crankshaft position sensor and also would I have to pull the motor to drop the oil pan? Detailed information would be greatly appreciated!
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Sunday, January 10th, 2021 AT 11:49 AM (Merged)
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WRENCHTECH
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What is behind it is the crankshaft. You have the right idea with drilling the old one but if that does not work. You do not have much choice but to drop the pan. Make sure you force some carburetor cleaner and then WD40 into there to loosen the varnish up.
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Sunday, January 10th, 2021 AT 11:49 AM (Merged)
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KEVINENBOM
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New reman long block was installed in the truck. The 2nd start of the motor resulted in 1391 code, although the engine ran great. Both cam and crank sensors were replaced and ECM was reset. Engine still ran great and again, on the 2nd start, the check engine light came on and returned the 1391 code. I am at a loss as to where to go next. Any clues?
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Sunday, January 10th, 2021 AT 11:49 AM (Merged)
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ASEMASTER6371
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To return that quickly, it is an electrical issue. Check all your wires for good connections.

Was this problem there with the old motor?

Roy
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Sunday, January 10th, 2021 AT 11:49 AM (Merged)
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KEVINENBOM
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It was never a problem prior to installing the new motor. Do you think it would be a grounding problem or an electrical feed issue?
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Sunday, January 10th, 2021 AT 11:49 AM (Merged)
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ASEMASTER6371
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Re check all your connections and grounds.

Do you have a scan tool, not as code reader?

Roy
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Sunday, January 10th, 2021 AT 11:49 AM (Merged)
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WRENCHTECH
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Pfrobably an issue with the wiring somewhere that was disturbed when the harness was moved around for the engine change, assuming you used the exact same replacement engine.
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Sunday, January 10th, 2021 AT 11:49 AM (Merged)
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BLUEOVALBOY2001
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I need to replace the crankshaft positioning sensor in my dakota, but I can't seem to find whereit is located. Please help if you can.
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Sunday, January 10th, 2021 AT 11:50 AM (Merged)
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BMRFIXIT
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Check the image below


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/99387_crank_sensor_52_1.jpg

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Sunday, January 10th, 2021 AT 11:50 AM (Merged)
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Engine Performance problem
1998 Dodge Dakota 6 cyl Two Wheel Drive Automatic

need an image of where does it goes?
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Sunday, January 10th, 2021 AT 11:50 AM (Merged)
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The sensor is bolted to the top of the cylinder block near the rear of right cylinder head. The sensor is accessed by removing the right front fender liner.


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/12900_cps_2.gif

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Sunday, January 10th, 2021 AT 11:50 AM (Merged)
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I have the 98 Dakota 2 wheel drive, 5 speed, 2.5L 4 cylinder. My crankshaft position sensor is located at the top driver side of the front of the tranny. 2 bolts and a plug at the driver side top of engine firewall. Easy to change it out.
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Sunday, January 10th, 2021 AT 11:50 AM (Merged)
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HIS1KRYPTONITE
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The distributor is on the passenger side of the engine, below where the sparkplug wires are attached.
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Sunday, January 10th, 2021 AT 11:50 AM (Merged)
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I was told that sometimes you can take it off and see if it has metal shavings attached to it, that you can simply wipe it off and put it back on. The sensor is merely a magnet attached to a wire that feeds to the ECM
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Sunday, January 10th, 2021 AT 11:50 AM (Merged)
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GEORGE HALL
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My check engine light come on and off. I check it out and #1, 2, 3, 4, 5, cyll. Are misfiring. 6 mos ago my truck would not start I found my crank sensor was no good I replace it that when its started. I repace cap, rotor, spark plug and wires and pick up coil. Did I install the crank sensor wrong or does it need to be replace or is their somthing eles wrong
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