Coolant temperature 75% towards hot (red zone)

Tiny
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  • 2000 PONTIAC SUNFIRE
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  • 110,000 MILES
Hi, this medium-mileage car has oil leaks that are coming from valve cover (hopefully not also from oil pan gasket and drain bolt washer). I am to replace that, but I recalled that the engine temperature gauge has always been higher than the middle point. I do not want to replace a gasket only to have it damaged or loosened by overheating.
Coolant level looks just fine between minimum and maximum (checked cold). However, even tho GM Dexcool is said to be good for 250,000 km or 150,000 miles or five years, I am not sure if it has been changed in awhile (seven to ten years). Should I be testing the coolant temperature sensor? Somehow, as-a-beginner-to-mechanics and car electrics, do resistance/voltage tests on wiring from ECU or instrument panel to verify if the temperature gauge on the cluster is even accurate? How do I really tell if the Pontiac's heat level is too high? I got Haynes manual but a lot of the photos/illustrations are dark and less clear. Thank you kindly.
I do have at least one round of experience doing a coolant flush without overheating on a Toyota Echo. Cannot under stand why GM car (Pontiac Sunfire) can apparently suffice with 'clean tap water' mixed in the coolant, according to owner's manual. Toyota strongly recommended distilled water.
Monday, December 18th, 2017 AT 12:08 AM

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Tiny
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I would use 50/50 coolant. Also, it would not be a bad idea to change the coolant if it is been that long. So it gets to 3/4 gauge and the radiator cooling fan does not come on?
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Monday, December 18th, 2017 AT 8:58 AM
Tiny
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Also, where does your temperature gauge usually run just over the half way mark?
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Monday, December 18th, 2017 AT 9:00 AM
Tiny
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Also, here is a guide to judge if it is overheating:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/symptoms-of-an-overheating-engine
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Monday, December 18th, 2017 AT 9:02 AM
Tiny
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I believe I usually see the gauge at the tick between 90 and 125 (°C Canada scale). Picture is included to give more perspective. Where it was supposed to be, normally, I would not know. The manual does not seem to say it should be at mid point like some other cars' owner's manual do. I have not owned the vehicle for more than two years, and only drove a modest 7000 or 8000 km on it in that time.
As for the cooling fan, is there a definitive way to make sure it is turning on optimally? I am pretty sure it works, but I have a sense that it maybe waits too late to engage. I mean nearly every source on the web says engine coolant operating temperature should be about in the range of 90-102 C right?
Between 90 and 125 would be 107.5.
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Monday, December 18th, 2017 AT 10:29 AM
Tiny
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Thanks a lot for your effort.
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Monday, December 18th, 2017 AT 10:30 AM
Tiny
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The fan should start coming on around 212-222 degrees.
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Monday, December 18th, 2017 AT 3:38 PM
Tiny
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Even for just that- txs. At least I can start suspecting the fan. Is this too much heat for the car even though it has not gone exactly into the red mark? I am thinking of trying a flush and fill, while opening bleeder bolt. But I am not too sure of diagnosing or changing out parts like a water pump gasket. Do not want to have to spend too much here.
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Tuesday, December 19th, 2017 AT 11:40 AM
Tiny
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What temp does the fan turn on at?
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Tuesday, December 19th, 2017 AT 10:10 PM

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