Coolant coming out overflow tank

2003 HONDA CIVIC
156,000 MILES • 1.7L • 4 CYL • 2WD • AUTOMATIC
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ALEX19899
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Hello, about a month ago my car started to overheat and coolant was coming out of the overflow tank while driving. So my mechanic took the engine apart put a new head gasket, resurfaced, new timing belt and water pump, new radiator, new hoses, new coolant overflow tank. But it still overflows the coolant tank. This morning before i left work the coolant tank was empty and when i got to work the coolant tank was pretty much over filled and coolant was everywhere under my hood. My mechanic will check it out tomorrow. But i wonder what would cause the coolant to boil over? The temperature gauge stays a bit over the middle mark as it always had since i got this car six months ago. The system has been burped.
Jan 14, 2019 at 6:27 PM
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And the thermostat is about four months old. And the upper hose is hot so it is opening.
Jan 14, 2019 at 6:28 PM
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Hi and thanks for using 2CarPros.

If the temperature isn't indicating that it's overheating, I have a feeling you have a bad head gasket again. What can happen is this; Compressed air from the combustion chamber can enter the cooling system. The result is it causes air to enter the cooling system. I have actually seen it blow the coolant out of the radiator. Often times, you will see bubbles in the coolant before it gets really bad.

Here is a link that shows how to check for a bad head gasket. Take a look through it and check some things yourself before taking it in. Also, with the engine cold, remove the radiator cap and start the engine. See if coolant blows out.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/head-gasket-blown-test

Do this and let me know what you find.

Take care,
Joe
Jan 14, 2019 at 8:07 PM
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ALEX19899
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Why would the head gasket be bad again they just put a new one in like two days ago?
Jan 14, 2019 at 8:40 PM
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If it's that new, something was missed, not properly prepared, installed, or inspected. There could even be a crack in the head or block that was missed.
Jan 14, 2019 at 8:54 PM
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They told me they had to resurfaced the head twice because it almost cracked.
Jan 14, 2019 at 9:00 PM
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So i turn the car on and put more coolant in the radiator and the radiator keeps sucking up the coolant few seconds later. but it does not spit any out.
Jan 14, 2019 at 9:42 PM
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Hi, I have two questions. is there white smoke from tailpipe? Does oil look like chocolate foam?
Jan 15, 2019 at 2:20 PM
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Also check out https://www.2carpros.com/articles/head-gasket-blown-testrepair guide Jacobandnickolas posted.
Jan 15, 2019 at 2:24 PM
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ALEX19899
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No.
Jan 15, 2019 at 3:20 PM
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Okay, so about four months ago i change out the thermostat so i figure id replace it again. I will attach a picture of the old that i put in. Keep in mind i did not do that to my old one i guess the shop did it.
Jan 15, 2019 at 3:52 PM
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Wow. The guts are missing. Did you remove the missing parts from the engine? Now I'm starting to wonder if there is a blockage forcing coolant back to the radiator.

I have attached a picture showing the position of the what I call a jiggle valve, but in the picture it is referred to as a pin. Make sure the gasket is position the way it's shown too. If that pin is blocked or not positioned correctly, you will have a hard time getting air from the system.

Let me know if this helps.

Joe
Jan 15, 2019 at 5:47 PM
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I believe the shop i took it to removed the guts from the thermostat.
Jan 15, 2019 at 6:02 PM
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I hope so. Has there been any change since you replaced it?
Jan 15, 2019 at 7:59 PM
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Since replacing it my temperature goes to the middle mark and before it would only go half way to the middle mark.
Jan 15, 2019 at 8:07 PM
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That makes total sense. With the guts missing from the thermostat, there was no restriction of coolant flow, so the engine could never warm up. Did this eliminate the issue with coolant loss? Also, I can't believe they put the bad thermostat back in. Confirm they removed the missing part.

Let me know.

Joe
Jan 15, 2019 at 8:31 PM
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I only let it idle in the drive i have not driven it yet, I will find out tomorrow. But makes sense why i had to refill the radiator everyday.
Jan 15, 2019 at 8:44 PM
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Also, the shop put red coolant in my radiator, i have always use the green coolant.
Jan 15, 2019 at 11:48 PM
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Is red coolant dexco? I was reading that Honda civic did not like the red coolant all that much.
Jan 15, 2019 at 11:48 PM
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Hi:
Dex-Cool is more of an orange and should not be mixed with other types of coolant. It may be a universal type coolant. You should confirm that.

Joe
Jan 16, 2019 at 5:17 PM
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There are a lot of colors of coolant out there these days but the color makes no real difference unless it is OEM coolant for the vehicle, the actual formula of the coolant does matter. The original reason for the colors was to make the shops life easier. Take GM for instance. Unless it was some odd special application they used the old (IAT) conventional Green antifreeze like everyone else. In 1996 GM introduced Dex-Cool, an OAT (Organic Acid Technology) formulation. GM asked the manufacturer to dye it Orange. This was so the folks servicing the vehicles at the dealer could simply look at the color instead of trying to determine which coolant to use. The other makes did the same as they switched to the new formulations as well.
This leads to a rainbow of colors in use today. Most of which are either OAT or some that are Hybrid OAT. The difference in those is that the Hybrid OAT actually brings back some silicates or other additives like phosphates from the old IAT formulas from the past into the new additive package.

The base ingredient in 99% of automotive anti-freeze regardless of type is Ethylene glycol at around 98%

For your Honda the OEM coolant is Honda type 2, the color would be Blue - That is an HOAT with a phosphate based additive package that is silicate, borate, nitrite and amine free. However, this is usually only found in Japanese built Honda vehicles

You say you have been using the Honda Green for years. That is the original OAT Honda used for many years. It is almost a twin blend of Dex-Cool.

If the Red you have in it now is a real OEM color matched formula it would be for Toyota, Lexus and Scion. It meets the exact same spec as the Honda Green that you have been using just in a brighter color.

Jan 16, 2019 at 5:22 PM