Connecting Master brake cylinder to proportioning valve

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Rear drums: how should the lines go from master cylinder to proportioning valve? We have no rear brakes, and I wonder if we have routed it wrong. Everything is okay, but pedal goes to the floor.
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Knut Smilden
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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 5:01 AM

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Tiny
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Hi, thanks for quick reply. We have Corvette calipers in front and original drums at the rear. New master cylinder and proportioning valve, all lines were bled out. Master cylinder bench bled, rear brakes adjusted tight. Car brakes on the front but rear wheels keep turning. I see many pictures online of pipe routing, and start doubting how we have routed it.
The picture is how it is routed now. But should I cross the lines an change ports?

Vennlig hilsen

Knut Smilden
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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 6:09 AM
Tiny
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Good morning,

I did not see it in English but I will tell you one thing, the large line out of the front goes to the front calipers. The other two lines out the rear go to the rear brakes.

is that how it is plumbed?

The fact you have no pedal leads me to believe you still have air in the system or a bad master cylinder.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/brake-pedal-goes-to-the-floor

Do you have pressure to the rear brakes?

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-bleed-or-flush-a-car-brake-system

Roy
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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 6:23 AM
Tiny
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Hi Roy. The 1/4 inch tube goes to the rear. The two 3/16 to the front. When we bleed, there is good stream out of all bleeder screws, and the pistons in the wheel cylinders in the drums move. But the rear brakes will not hold when we brake. So maybe I would try to cross the lines from the master cylinder to the proportioning valve. I have seen pictures of that.

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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 6:41 AM
Tiny
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The master cylinder and the proportioning valve are new.

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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 6:44 AM
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New or not, it may be a bad master cylinder.

No, I would not cross the lines at all. That will affect braking and could cause pulling. This is a bad idea.

I would find someone with a pressure bleeder to force fluid through the lines. You could still have air trapped in the lines.

Roy
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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 6:48 AM
Tiny
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Okay, so not cross lines from master cylinder to proportioning valve. I will look for some more air.

Thanks,

Knut
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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 6:56 AM
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Just a stupid question. Did you mount the calipers with the bleeder valve at the top? You can put the caliper on and if the bleeder is at the bottom, air will not be bled out.

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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 7:02 AM
Tiny
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Bleeders are on top.
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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 7:27 AM
Tiny
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So in the master cylinder: the primary piston is the one nearest to the brake booster, and the one that feeds the front brakes?

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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 7:31 AM
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Correct.

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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 7:32 AM
Tiny
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But there are many pictures online where the line from primary port goes to the port on the proportioning valve that feeds the rear brakes?

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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 7:34 AM
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That is why I stated the big line goes to the front brakes and the smaller lines go to the rear brakes.

On disc/drum the primary brakes are the fronts.

Roy
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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 7:36 AM
Tiny
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But the primary are to the left on the picture, and those to lines go to the front. Is that not right then?
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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 9:04 AM
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The large reservoir in the master is for the front brakes, so the line that comes out goes to the front brakes. The smaller chamber goes to the rear.

No matter what, you should still have a pedal. This will not prevent you from having a good hard pedal.

Roy
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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 9:08 AM
Tiny
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Sending you picture of the old master cylinder and proportioning valve. Are the ports correct "named"?
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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 10:49 AM
Tiny
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Here it is.

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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 10:50 AM
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Yep, that looks good.

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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 11:05 AM
Tiny
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Thanks, then I will change to the old proportioning valve, witch by the way, was connected from secondary out port on the master cylinder, to the outlet port to rear brakes on the proportioning valve.
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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 11:11 AM
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Got it. See if you can get a pressure bleeder as well.

Roy
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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 11:13 AM
Tiny
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Will do.
Thanks Roy.

Regards,
Knut
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Friday, November 30th, 2018 AT 11:15 AM

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