Condenser fan not working relay or fuse?

Good afternoon,

There is no relay. It is controlled by the TIPM which is easy to replace because it self initializes. There are instructions for the replacement in the diagrams below.

Roy

1. Disconnect and isolate the negative battery cable.
2. Recover the refrigerant from the refrigerant system See: Heating and Air Conditioning > Procedures > Refrigerant System Recovery.
3. Disconnect the A/C discharge line and the A/C liquid line from the A/C condenser See: Hose/Line HVAC > Removal and Replacement > A/C Discharge Line - Removal and See: Hose/Line HVAC > Removal and Replacement > A/C Liquid Line - Removal.
4. Disconnect the wire harness connector (8) from the A/C condenser cooling fan motor (7).
5. Remove the two bolts (1 and 9) that secure the A/C condenser to the front upper crossmember (2).
6. Carefully lift the A/C condenser and cooling fan assembly to disconnect the lower mounting tabs (6) from the lower mounting flanges (3) and remove the assembly from the engine compartment.
7. Place the A/C condenser and the cooling fan assembly on a workbench and remove the four screws (4 and 5) that secure the cooling fan to the A/C condenser and separate the fan from the condenser.

Check out the diagrams (Below). Please let us know what you find.

Hello,

Yes you do. Here is a video that will help you see what you are in for when doing the job.

https://youtu.be/ipmmluZmgaU

and

https://youtu.be/fPgEtJ4KAT4

Here is a discharge and charging guide:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/re-charge-an-air-conditioner-system

Please let us know what happens.

Cheers, Ken

Good morning,

The relay is part of the fuse block and is not serviceable. It is internal in the module which is called the TIPM.

I will attach a wire diagram for you to view. Check for voltage to the motor to be sure it is not a bad motor. The control is the module looks for input from the AC system from the pressure switch. When it sees pressure above 20 lbs, it will turn on the fan.

I attached installation instruction for you in case it is the module which is a very common failure.

Roy

INSTALLATION

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1. Position the Totally Integrated Power Module (1)(TIPM) into the vehicle.

NOTE: Totally Integrated power module electrical connectors are color coded to ease location reference.

2. Connect the electrical connectors (2) by pushing straight on and rotating the connector arm inboard, until the connector is firmly locked in place on the TIPM assembly (1).

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3. Turn the TIPM (1) so that the connector side is facing down. Install the assembly onto the TIPM battery tray bracket (3) making sure to line up the lower retaining tab with the retaining slot in the tray (1).
4. Push the TIPM (1) downward to lock the upper retaining clips into the bracket (3).

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5. Install the B+ terminal cable (5) and nut (6) on the B+ terminal of the TIPM (2).
6. Connect the battery negative cable.

You are welcome.

Always glad to help.

Roy

Your vehicle does not have a relay. It has what is called a TIPM or totally integrated power module.

That means that we need to test for power at the fan motor and if we don't have it, we need to go to the TIPM and test for power coming out and if we don't have it then it needs a TIPM. This is not uncommon for these to fail.

Let's check for power and go from there. Thanks

Here is how you can confirm the TIPM being bad with the instructions (below) on how to change out the TIPM which is easy because it self initializes.

https://youtu.be/InIlnsjOVFA

Here are the A/C system wiring diagrams so you can see how the system works. Please let us know what happens.

Can we step back and clarify which fan you are saying is not working? I understood the /AC fan as the one under the hood. Do you mean the blower motor is not working? The one that blows the cold A/C air out of the vents?

This vehicle is called a TIPM based vehicle. That means the traditional fuse block is replaced (mostly) with a circuit board control drivers. So what happens is when the fan needs to be turned on the PCM tells the TIPM to energize the fan and it does it through the circuit board.

Take a look at the wiring diagram and it will show the detail.

Let us know what questions you have. Thanks

Please unplug the cooling fan motor and use this guide to check the ground, then turn the A/C on and wait 2 minutes to check for power at the motor.

These guides will help:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-a-test-light-circuit-tester

and

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/replace-electric-fan-motor

Please run down these guides and report back.

This will be a separate problem. Please post your new question here, you must be logged in.

https://www.2carpros.com/questions/new

Cheers, Ken