Codes P2135, P2138 and P0641?

Tiny
LKING1743
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  • 2005 CHEVROLET TRAILBLAZER
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  • 200,000 MILES
I am getting these codes even after I have replaced a new Throttle Body and a new Accelerated Pedal Position Sensor. My check engine light is on as well as another light when my truck goes into limp mode.
Saturday, March 30th, 2024 AT 1:57 PM

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Tiny
KEN L
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Here are the code meanings:

P2135: Throttle/Pedal Position Sensor/Switch 'A'/'B' Voltage Correlation

P2138: Throttle/Pedal Position Sensor/Switch 'D'/'E' Voltage Correlation

P0641: Sensor Reference Voltage 'A' Circuit/Open

The P0641 is the problem you have an open circuit and a problem with the five-volt reference which can be the PCM itself. So, let's check the five volts at the TPS inside the throttle body and the throttle position sensor or APP.

This guide can help:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-a-voltmeter

Also, we should check the hand full of fuses that run the system which I have included as well in the images below.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-a-car-fuse

Here are the wiring diagrams and I have marked the wires you should check with the key on. If you have no 5 volts on either of these wires and the fuses are all good, I would swap out the PCM with a preprogrammed unit.

POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE (PCM) REPLACEMENT

Service of the powertrain control module (PCM) should normally consist of either replacement of the PCM or electrically erasable programmable read only memory (EEPROM) programming. If the diagnostic procedures call for the PCM to be replaced, the PCM should be inspected first to see if the correct part is being used. If the correct part is being used, remove the faulty PCM and install the new service PCM.

IMPORTANT:
- To prevent internal PCM damage, the ignition must be OFF when disconnecting or reconnecting power to the PCM. For example, when working with a battery cable, PCM pigtail, PCM fuse, or jumper cables.
- Remove any debris from the PCM connector surfaces before servicing the PCM. Inspect the PCM module connector gaskets when diagnosing or replacing the PCM. Ensure that the gaskets are installed correctly. The gaskets prevent contaminant intrusion into the PCM.

Removal Procedure
1. Using a scan tool, retrieve the percentage of remaining engine oil. Record the remaining engine oil life.

IMPORTANT: It is necessary to record the remaining engine oil life. If the replacement module is not programed with the remaining engine oil life, the engine oil life will default to 100 percent. If the replacement module is not programmed with the remaining engine oil life, the engine oil will need to be changed at 5000 km (3,000 mi) from the last engine oil change.

Installation Procedure

1. Install the PCM mounting studs (5) to the intake manifold, if removed.

NOTE: Refer to Fastener Notice in Service Precautions.

Tighten the studs to 6 N.m (53 lb in).

2. Install the PCM (1) onto the studs (5).
3. Install the PCM retaining bolts (3).

Tighten the bolts to 8 N.m (71 lb in).

4. Install the PCM retaining nuts (6).

Tighten the nuts to 8 N.m (71 lb in).

5. Install the PCM harness connectors (2) to the PCM body.
6. Tighten the PCM harness connector retaining bolts (4).

Tighten the bolts to 8 N.m (71 lb in).

7. If a new PCM is being installed, the PCM must be programmed. See: Vehicle > Programming and Relearning

Check out the images (below). Please upload pictures or videos in your response to the problem so we can see what's going on.
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Saturday, March 30th, 2024 AT 2:35 PM
Tiny
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Thank you for the quick response. We will check all of this out.
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Saturday, March 30th, 2024 AT 4:58 PM
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You are welcome, please let me know.
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Sunday, March 31st, 2024 AT 6:35 PM
Tiny
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Hello Ken,
So since our last message I checked and all my fuses were fine. I did have an issue with one of the 5 volt circuits. So we decided to install a PCM. Finally received it yesterday and my husband put it on. Drove a few times and it drove great. Shifting was even better. Got in it this morning and didn't even make it out of the driveway and it went to limp mode again. Checked the code and it's showing the throttle body code again. P2135. Any ideas this time?
Thank you,
Lynn
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Thursday, May 9th, 2024 AT 4:22 PM
Tiny
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This must be in the wiring or you have a defective throttle pedal position sensor, can I ask which brand you used? It would be a good idea to use the guides I have above to check the wiring between the pedal sensor, throttle body and PCM.
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Saturday, May 11th, 2024 AT 2:01 PM
Tiny
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Hello Ken,
We bought all GM products because a mechanic said that's why I keep having trouble. The throttle and pedal position accelerator. Thank you for the guide. I will check this out. Thanks for hanging in here and helping me. My husband is having heart surgery tomorrow so I will look at the wires Thursday again thank you!
Lynn
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Tuesday, May 14th, 2024 AT 5:59 AM
Tiny
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Oh man, I will have good thoughts for him. Please let me know what you find. If the wiring is okay you will have a bad PCM, you can get a preprogrammed unit by searching Google or Ebay. Here is how to change the PCM out in case you need it. Check out the images (below).
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Tuesday, May 14th, 2024 AT 10:11 AM

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