How to set ignition timing?

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STEVE1332
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1998 Chevy Silverado V8 Four Wheel Drive Automatic

what is the proper way to set the timing on a 1998 chevy 305.
Tuesday, August 18th, 2009 AT 8:06 PM

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Tiny
RASMATAZ
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You must be talking about the EST wire-not too sure the EST applys to this year/model-am basing myself on earlier year/model such as a 92

Try looking for a tan and black connector near the distributor-this wire is for the EST ( Electronic Spark Timing ) you disconnect it then check ignition timing-once set at 0 deg the computer controls it-
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Saturday, August 22nd, 2020 AT 9:26 AM (Merged)
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I just adjusted the timing on my truck listed above it is a 5.7 liter. My truck was getting horrible gas mileage and I had already done everything else (i.E. Replaced every sensor). The timing was set at around ten degrees so I set it at zero (or about as close as I could get it to zero.) This was a pain as every time I tried to tighten that distributor bolt it adjusted the timing slightly. Anyways. When I got the bolt sufficiently tight I checked the timing one last time and then turned the truck off and reconnected the black-tan wire under the firewall (ECT or something?) I drove it around for a bit and rechecked the timing when I got back. I left the black-tan wire plugged in and noticed that my timing was way advanced (probably around sixteen degrees) and fluctuating slightly as the rpm's went up and down while idling (this is one of the annoying things I have been trying to fix). So I unplugged the wire and started to re-do the timing adjustment. Well after I unplugged that wire the timing was back to zero degrees.

So what the heck? When the wire is not plugged in the timing is at zero. When the wire is plugged in the timing reads around sixteen. Should I leave the wire unplugged? Or is it normal for the timing to jump back up when you plug the wire back in?
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Saturday, August 22nd, 2020 AT 9:26 AM (Merged)
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You disconnect the wire to reach base timing.
When the wire is connected PCM is in control of the timing and it does advance it as needed.
After base timing is set wire should be plugged back in.
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Saturday, August 22nd, 2020 AT 9:26 AM (Merged)
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So this is normal then? Or is something up with my PCM? Thanks for the reply!
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Saturday, August 22nd, 2020 AT 9:26 AM (Merged)
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Yes, this is a normal operation of the PCM.
You should be okay.
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Saturday, August 22nd, 2020 AT 9:26 AM (Merged)
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Thank you worked perfect!
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Saturday, August 22nd, 2020 AT 9:26 AM (Merged)
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1994 Chevrolet Silverado K1500, 350 v-8, automatic transmission. With timing light attached, ignition timing retards towards TDC when throttle is pressed causing engine to stumble and stall. Distributor as to be advanced so that the timing mark, at idle, is almost at the 12 o'clock position to compensate for the timing retarding when accelerating.

This results in very poor performance, fuel economy and detonation above 45 mph. I disconnected the Electronic Spark Timing wire from the distributor just to see if condition improves. Timing set around 4-6 degrees at idle with some advancing occurring when accelerator is depressed. No engine stumbling or stalling, drive performance is tolerable. However, service engine soon light remains lit, of course.

Confirmed that number 1 cylinder location on distributor is correct at TDC. Also replaced IAC and Throttle position sensors. No SES light prior to disconnecting EST wire from distributor.

I can get engine to run better with it disconnected, setting timing at 4 to 6 degrees advance at idle and it jumps to 8 to 10 degrees advanced under throttle. Once I reconnect the EST engine runs poorly as timing is retarded. That's why I had to run the distributor so far advanced with EST connected as it will retard the timing by as much as 10 degrees upon throttle.
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Saturday, August 22nd, 2020 AT 9:26 AM (Merged)
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I have seen this before it ended up being the ECM causing the issue.

Here is how the book says to set the timing.

Set parking brake, block drive wheels and place transmission in Neutral or Park.
Warm engine to normal operating temperature.
Turn A/C off (if equipped).
Ensure Malfunction Indicator Light (MIL) is not on.
Disconnect Tan/Black Electronic Spark Timing (EST) by-pass connector wire located near distributor or under the dash in the center or by the passengers side.

EST connector is located inside cab right side by heater motor, not under the hood, 1994 and up).

DO NOT disconnect 4-wire connector at distributor.
Connect timing light to No. 1 spark plug wire.
Check timing and adjust if necessary.
Reconnect EST by-pass connector, and clear ECM trouble code

Timing should be set at 0 and at idle When throttle is open timing should change as this is normal check timing chain and fuel pressure.

Check out the diagrams (Below)

Please let us know if you need anything else to get the problem fixed.

Cheers
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Saturday, August 22nd, 2020 AT 9:26 AM (Merged)
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Just to add my experience to this one. While it wasn't the same truck, I have had issues with the distributor itself causing similar issues. I never caught it retarding the timing as I didn't check total timing but had the same concerns as you listed. I ended up replacing the distributor for another issue and it corrected all issues. Just something to think about. I suspect it was delivering a weak spark which was the cause of all the issues I was having. Thanks
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Saturday, August 22nd, 2020 AT 1:58 PM

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