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How to change the transmission and clutch fluids?

Tiny
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Can you tell me the steps for changing the transmission fluid and the dry clutch fluid on this one? It has a pdk transmission so it should have two different ones.
Thursday, January 6th, 2022 AT 4:42 PM

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Tiny
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Hi,

I attached the directions for both below. Take a look through them and let me know if you have questions.

Also, here is a link you may find helpful:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-service-an-automatic-transmission

I hope this helps. Also, the last pic is what it's showing for fluid types and capacity.

Take care,

Joe

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Thursday, January 6th, 2022 AT 6:18 PM
Tiny
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Very informative, thank you. But I heard since this is a pdk transmission it uses both ATF and manual transmission and that there is a place where the manual transmission is drained and filled and should be less than a quart.
I find it strange that they ask to shit the engine off and fill again at 40c as most German cars require engine to be running.
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Thursday, January 6th, 2022 AT 6:24 PM
Tiny
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Is this what you are referring to? See pic 1 below.

Let me know. Also, pic 2 shows what the manual indicates as fluid type.

Take care,

Joe

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Thursday, January 6th, 2022 AT 9:05 PM
Tiny
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I think pic one is just the fill plug for ATF. But yes, the final drive is what I read about. I have already ordered the ffl3, 8 liters for the transmission, but there must be another chamber just for manual transmission fluid.
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Friday, January 7th, 2022 AT 5:28 AM
Tiny
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Has to be a chamber with fluid capacity of less than a liter.
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Friday, January 7th, 2022 AT 7:25 AM
Tiny
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I saw the article on changing the fluid, but they call it transmission fluid which uses manual transmission fluid which is ffl-3, so is the ffl-3 a manual fluid? Which is the 8.5 liter referred to.
Where is the clutch fluid he is referring to?
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Friday, January 7th, 2022 AT 9:32 AM
Tiny
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Okay, are you referring to the final drive and not "dry clutch" fluid?

The FFL3 is an automatic transmission fluid. The front final drive takes a gear oil, Shell TF0951 oil. See pic 1 below.

The generation 970 of Panamera MY2010-2013, PDK has two separate fluid compartments, one for transmission (FFL3), and another for the front final drive (Shell TF0951).

To complete this model Panamera PDK service, you need:

FFL3 (about 8.5 quarts) - while level, drain via drain plug, pour in via inspection plug, run through gears at 40C, make sure fluid topped up to fill hole.

Shell TF0951 or Mobil Delvac 1 gear oil, synthetic 75W-90 (.42 liter change qty) - while level, drain via drain plug, fill via fill plug until fluid leaks out fill plug hole.

If it is the final drive, see pics below for directions.

Let me know.

Joe

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Friday, January 7th, 2022 AT 6:38 PM
Tiny
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What is the final drive? Front and rear transfer cases?
If not, is it part of the transmission and attached on the rear of transmission by the driveshaft? Lots of confusion online even among enthusiasts, some claim 4 liters sole say.4, some say ffl-3 is actually a manual transmission fluid but does in the transmission as an ATF.
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Friday, January 7th, 2022 AT 6:50 PM
Tiny
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The final drive is basically the differentials. As far s the FFl3, it is a gear oil.

Joe
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Saturday, January 8th, 2022 AT 11:41 PM

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