Over heated now it will not turn over

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LORIANN MARTINEZ
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  • 1999 OLDSMOBILE INTRIGUE
  • 0.5L
  • 6 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 210,087 MILES
Overheated so put a new water pump in now it wont turn over.
Wednesday, September 21st, 2016 AT 12:40 AM

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HMAC300
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Check battery for condition including load test if you have another key try that not a new key it may be a bad key setting off anti theft.

Here is a guide that will help

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-cranks-but-wont-start

Cheers!
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Wednesday, September 21st, 2016 AT 7:05 AM
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RENEE L
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Hi LORIANN,

If you decide to check the condition of your battery yourself here is a link to an article form this site that features written instructions, pictures and a video explaining how to load test your battery yourself. If you need further assistance please come back to 2CarPros.com. We are always happy to help.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-a-car-battery

Thank you for visiting 2CarPros.

Kindest regards,

Renee
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Wednesday, September 21st, 2016 AT 10:57 AM
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CHARLES W. TALLEY
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No start situation, engine cranks but will not start. Changed ignition module and fuel pump.
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Wednesday, November 1st, 2017 AT 8:17 PM (Merged)
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Have you checked to determine if there is both spark and fuel getting to the engine? Simple trick. See if it will start for a few seconds using starting fluid. If it does, there is a fuel problem. If it fails to start, then you have an ignition problem. At least that will help point you in the right direction.

One other thought. Since it has the OBD2 system, if you can get your hands on a scanner, check to see if there is a signal from the crank sensor. That can cause the same issues if it's bad.
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Wednesday, November 1st, 2017 AT 8:17 PM (Merged)
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DAVESEXTON
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  • 1989 BUICK LESABRE
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Engine Mechanical problem
1989 Buick Lesabre 6 cyl Front Wheel Drive Automatic 389000 miles

Hi,
Just replaced the timing chain, sprokets, magnet, camshaft sensor. Car will now crank but stops running after a few seconds. Everything was done following the instructions in my Haynes book for my car.
What do I do now?
Thanks in advance,
Dave
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Wednesday, November 1st, 2017 AT 8:19 PM (Merged)
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RASMATAZ
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Check the fuel pressure to rule out the fuel pressure regulator and the fuel pump. If the fuel system is okay-

Check the mass airflow sensor, idle air control valve and throttle position sensor-
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Wednesday, November 1st, 2017 AT 8:19 PM (Merged)
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DAVESEXTON
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All three check out ok. I cranked the motor and left the starter running and as soon as let the key go back to the on position, the engine shut down making me think it is an electrical problem within in the ignition switch. Does this sound right?
Thanks,
Dave
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Wednesday, November 1st, 2017 AT 8:19 PM (Merged)
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RASMATAZ
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Sounds like the ignition circuit of the ignition switch is gone. What's powering it is the start circuit once you let go-it will die out No power to coil.
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Wednesday, November 1st, 2017 AT 8:19 PM (Merged)
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[quote="rasmataz"]Sounds like the ignition circuit of the ignition switch is gone. What's powering it is the start circuit once you let go-it will die out No power to coil.[/Quote

another thing to ck is your crank sensor, and I believe its in your front crank pully, since you did all that work in that place of orgin
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Wednesday, November 1st, 2017 AT 8:19 PM (Merged)
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DAVESEXTON
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I adjusted the ignition switch module (the rectangular box where the rod comes down from the locking cylinder) and the car started and ran perfectly. Thanks for all your help. I'm new at doing major jobs on my car. This was my first time for anything this big.
Thanks again,
Dave
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Wednesday, November 1st, 2017 AT 8:19 PM (Merged)
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TLEV
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Idles smooth cuts out when stepping on the throttle tested fuel presure it was good checked air filter and spark both ok engine was warm up when checked
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Wednesday, November 1st, 2017 AT 8:19 PM (Merged)
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Fuel pressure must be checked with a gauge 41-47 psi
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Wednesday, November 1st, 2017 AT 8:19 PM (Merged)
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The first step is to read and record any diagnostic fault codes. Check this page for the procedure:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/buick-cadillac-chevy-gmc-oldsmobile-pontiac-gm-1983-1995-obd1-code-definitions-and-retrieval-method

Check the fresh air tube between the mass air flow sensor and throttle body to be sure there's no leaks or loose hose clamps, and check the vacuum hoses and other signs of a vacuum leak. If there aren't any fault codes, the next step is to connect a scanner so you can view live data. That usually takes an experienced engine performance mechanic to interpret, but you can look at the sensor data to see if anything is obviously wrong.
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Wednesday, November 1st, 2017 AT 8:19 PM (Merged)
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Hi Hmac300. Didn't mean to butt in to your conversation.
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Wednesday, November 1st, 2017 AT 8:19 PM (Merged)
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EDMONDO
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Engine Mechanical problem
1989 Buick Lesabre 6 cyl Front Wheel Drive Automatic 180, 43 miles

when car warms up, starts to die check engine lite turns on-smile-then dies --starts up fast
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Wednesday, November 1st, 2017 AT 8:19 PM (Merged)
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Have the computer scanned for code/s-you have a problem within the engine management system that caused the CEL to turn on-This is your starting point of diagnosis, finding out what's going on.
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Wednesday, November 1st, 2017 AT 8:19 PM (Merged)
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ROSELLJA
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Engine Performance problem
1989 Buick Lesabre 6 cyl Two Wheel Drive Automatic 77000 miles

My Lesabre stalls after running for about 10 minutes maybe more. It mostly happens when at an idle or slow speed. It has happened on the expressway also, though when maintaining a constant speed and rpm.

I checked the fuel pressure and it was exactly within specs. The check engine light said the code was for a bad crank position sensor. I replaced the sensor. Next code that came up said it was the ignition control module. I replaced that and the coil pack. The car continues to stall but now it stalls somewhat slowly where before it would just stop.

I have also replaced the cam position sensor and had the catalytic converter checked to see if it is plugged.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Wednesday, November 1st, 2017 AT 8:19 PM (Merged)
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Just another suggestion
clean throttle plate and body
clean idle air control valve
disconnect battery and reconnect start and let it idle for few minutes and than take it for a ride
hope this help if not done it already
good luck

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need manual CHECK IT @
https://www.2carpros.com/kpages/auto_repair_manuals.htm
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Wednesday, November 1st, 2017 AT 8:19 PM (Merged)
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ROSELLJA
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I cleaned the valve and throttle body but the problem still persists. I was able to get a new code 027 which is the quad driver module (2nd gear). How would I test what caused the fault? I don't want to put a new ecm in and have it happen again
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Wednesday, November 1st, 2017 AT 8:19 PM (Merged)
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STANDARDIZED ECM TROUBLE CODE DEFINITION
Code No. Circuit Affected
12 (1) No RPM reference pulse
13 Open oxygen sensor circuit
14 CTS signal voltage low
15 CTS signal voltage high
16 System voltage high (3.3L & 3.8L)
21 TPS signal voltage high
22 TPS signal voltage low
23 MAT sensor signal voltage high M/C solenoid voltage low
24 VSS circuit
25 MAT sensor signal voltage low
26 Quad-Driver error
27, 28 & 29 Gear switch problem (3.8L)
31 Wastegate error (turbo) Purge solenoid voltage high (carb.) Park/Neutral switch (3.8L)
32 EGR vacuum control signal
33 MAP sensor signal voltage high MAF sensor signal voltage high (PFI)
34MAP sensor signal voltage low Pressure sensor circuit MAF sensor signal voltage low (PFI)
35IAC Idle speed error
36MAF sensor burnoff (5.0L & 5.7L) Closed throttle airflow high (2.3L)
38Brake switch (3.3L & 3.8L)
39TCC (3.3L & 3.8L)
41No distributor reference (carb.) C(3)I ignition - cam sensor loss Cylinder select error (MEM-CAL)
42EST circuit open or grounded
43ESC retard signal too low
44Lean exhaust indicated
45Rich exhaust indicated
46Anti-theft fault (5.7L) Power steering pressure switch (3.3L)
48Misfire diagnosis (3.8L)
51Faulty PROM, MEM-CAL or ECM
52Faulty/missing CALPAC or MEM-CAL
53Faulty alternator, voltage high EGR system malfunction Anti-theft circuit fault
54Fuel pump voltage low MC solenoid voltage high (carb.)
55Faulty ECM
61Degraded O2 sensor (2.8L & 3.1L)
62Gear switch error (2.3L)
63EGR flow error (3.8L)
64EGR flow error (3.8L)
65Fuel injector current low (2.3L) EGR flow error (3.8L)
66A/C press. Sensor voltage out of spec. (2.3L & 3.3L)
(1)Code "12" should be displayed only when no reference pulses are received by ECM (engine not running).
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