Car will not Move

Tiny
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  • 2004 SATURN ION
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Car is a 2004 ion 3 quad coupe. Was driving today and while driving it stopped accelerating and the car started revving loudly. I pulled over and put it park then tried reverse, Incline and Low. No matter what gear what I try it will not move. There have been no signs of anything wrong with the transmission at all. What is wrong? What do I do to fix it?
Saturday, December 15th, 2018 AT 9:46 PM

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Tiny
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Hi and thanks for using 2carpros. Com.

The first thing I would suggest is to check the transmission fluid and confirm that it is clean and full.

Here are the directions for checking it. The attached picture correlates with these directions.

VT25-E TRANSMISSION FLUID CHECKING PROCEDURE
1. Install a scan tool.
2. Start the engine.
3. Park the vehicle on a level surface.
4. Depress the brake pedal and move the shift lever from "PARK" to "REVERSE" for 10 seconds.
5. Depress the brake pedal and move the shift lever from "REVERSE" to "DRIVE" for 10 seconds.
6. Move the shift lever back to "PARK". The engine should remain running.

7. Remove the plug from the center of the fluid fill lower tube. The fluid fill lower tube is located on the bottom of the unit.

IMPORTANT: Do not use ATF P/N 21005966 or P/N 21019223. These fluids are not compatible with this transmission. Use Saturn DEX-CVT Fluid P/N 22688912.

8. If fluid drains down as a steady stream from the opening, wait for it to stop. If fluid does not drain from the opening, add more fluid until it starts to drain as a steady stream, then stop adding fluid immediately. Allow fluid to drain until the fluid stream stops.

IMPORTANT: The normal use color for DEX-CVT fluid is green or light brown. Fluid may also turn dark brown from normal use, and does not always indicate contamination. Fluid that is very dark or black and has a burnt odor usually indicates contamination or over-heating.

9. Inspect the fluid color.
10. Inspect the fluid for metal or other debris which may indicate transaxle damage.
11. Inspect the fluid for a cloudy or milky appearance which may indicate engine coolant contamination.
12. Replace the lower fill tube plug. Tighten the plug to 11.0 Nm (97 lb. In).
13. On the scan tool, observe the Trans. Fluid Temp. And record the temperature.
If the Trans. Fluid Temp. Is 20°C (68°F), add 0.5 qt (0.47 liter) of fluid to the transmission. Do not remove the plug.
If the Trans. Fluid Temp. Is 40°C (104°F), add 0.75 qt (0.71 liter) of fluid to the transmission. Do not remove the plug.
If the Trans. Fluid Temp. Is 60°C (140°F), add 1 qt (0.95 liter) of fluid to the transmission. Do not remove the plug.
If the Trans. Fluid Temp. Is 80°C (176°F), add 1.25 qt (1.18 liters) of fluid to the transmission. Do not remove the plug.

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Let me know what you find. Note: If you find it is low, make sure to use the correct fluid as indicated in the directions.

Joe
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Saturday, December 15th, 2018 AT 10:01 PM
Tiny
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Drained my fluid but found these in there. What are they?
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Saturday, December 29th, 2018 AT 1:57 PM
Tiny
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Welcome back:
Can you tell me what they are made of? Also, were they in the pan or where did you find them?

I attached an exploded picture of the transmission and components. Take a look.

Joe
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Saturday, December 29th, 2018 AT 6:59 PM
Tiny
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They are very thin metal, as soon as I removed the bolt to drain the transmission fluid they fell out.
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Saturday, December 29th, 2018 AT 7:51 PM
Tiny
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They appear (I can't be 100% sure) to be from the filter mount assembly. Have you removed the pan?
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Saturday, December 29th, 2018 AT 8:19 PM
Tiny
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No, all I have done so far was remove the bolt and drain it, then try to figure out what those pieces are.
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Saturday, December 29th, 2018 AT 8:43 PM
Tiny
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I have a feeling that once you remove the pan, you will see something disconnected such as a band, or it could even be the mount for the filter.
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Sunday, December 30th, 2018 AT 2:02 PM
Tiny
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I will drop the pan on Wednesday and update you.
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Sunday, December 30th, 2018 AT 10:34 PM
Tiny
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Sounds like a plan. Let me know what you find

Take care and have a good New Year!

Joe
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Sunday, December 30th, 2018 AT 11:06 PM
Tiny
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Hey Joe, is this what I need to remove?
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Tuesday, January 1st, 2019 AT 3:30 PM
Tiny
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Hi and welcome back:
No, that's not the pan. The pan will be on the bottom. I attached a picture of the pan gasket so you can see the shape of the pan.

Let me know if this helps.

Joe
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Tuesday, January 1st, 2019 AT 9:13 PM
Tiny
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Which one Joe?
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Thursday, January 3rd, 2019 AT 12:50 PM
Tiny
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Or A.
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Thursday, January 3rd, 2019 AT 12:51 PM
Tiny
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Hi again:

I can't see the entire first picture, but that looks like it. The pan should be shaped like the gasket picture I attached.

Joe
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Thursday, January 3rd, 2019 AT 4:02 PM
Tiny
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I am having trouble finding anything shaped like that gasket from underneath the engine bay. But ill give it a try.
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Thursday, January 3rd, 2019 AT 6:22 PM
Tiny
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The transmission should be a VT25-E CVT transmission. That's the shape it should be.

Let me know.
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Thursday, January 3rd, 2019 AT 8:25 PM

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