Car want start unless jump boosted

Tiny
TRISH MILLS
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  • 2006 SATURN ION
  • 2.2L
  • 4 CYL
  • 2WD
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  • 150,000 MILES
Car want start unless boosted then car runs good. But, as soon as the car is turn off it will not start back. Check battery and alternator both good. The car has even cranked with the key turn off while getting a boost. Also, the started stays kick in after the car is running. The car also has cranked with out the battery cable being on the battery. This is the oddest thing that I have every seen. Could this be the ignition.
Wednesday, April 5th, 2017 AT 3:30 PM

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Tiny
TRISH MILLS
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Also, I had the starter check at Advance and he told me the starter was fine. But, I have had someone else to tell me even if the starter is good it can cause this problem if something is sticking in the starter itself or something to do with the grounded.
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Wednesday, April 5th, 2017 AT 3:47 PM
Tiny
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Please, someone help me with this problem I just bough this car so I could have transportation to get back and forward to a cancer clinic. I have to make multiply trips out of town back and forward to receive cancer surgeries.
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Wednesday, April 5th, 2017 AT 3:50 PM
Tiny
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Something is wrong here. It is impossible for a starter to work if a battery cable is disconnected. I have a suspicion someone else disconnected the smaller wire at the starter, and something got lost in translation.

The multiple symptoms suggest the starter solenoid is sticking. That has been somewhat of a common problem on '87 and newer GM products. The solenoid housing warps a little, then the metal plunger sticks and may not fully release or it may not fully engage. It's job is to pop a gear out to engage the engine, THEN it turns on a large switch to turn on the starter motor. If it sticks and doesn't release, the starter can continue cranking the engine after the ignition switch is released. If it sticks when you try to start the engine, a jump-start can provide just the little more voltage that is needed to get it to engage. You can do the same thing by tapping on the solenoid while a helper is holding the ignition switch in the "crank" position.

The fix is to replace the starter solenoid, but given the cost and the additional time, the better solution is to just replace the entire starter. They always come with a new solenoid.

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Wednesday, April 5th, 2017 AT 4:40 PM

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