Engine stalls at idle, why?

Tiny
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The truck will not idle. It run rough and will start and stall. At one point it had codes p2196 and p2198. When I get the truck going I notice that the front cats were glowing red. Found that the injectors were dumping fuel. Removed the spark plugs and the were black with soot. Ive changed the MAF sensor EGR and checked fuel pressure. The pressure was around 60psi and held pressure. (Had no drop. So no leaky injector or fuel regulator problem) I also drop the cats to see if they were clogged but the engine still remained the same. No difference with or without the cats connected. At the end I did a compression test and the cylinders on the drivers side were all around 120. The passenger side the compression readings were erratic. On one cylinder I had no compression then I would have 90. I was told that there is a timing chain in the rear of that head, and the guides break that can cause all these problems. Is this something that is common? Or should I look somewhere else before pulling this engine? Please help. This Explorer has a 4.0L SOHC
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Yes it is common for them to fail. I would check the timing to make sure it is correct. As far as the cats, if they were glowing red, chances are they melted down, so they may need replaced when you get the thing going again.

As far as the compression, there shouldn't more than a 10% variation between cylinders. Yes, you could have a burnt valve, sticking valve. That may explain why you have compression one time and not the next. Start by checking timing. It could do the same thing. If it is good and correct, then you will need to start looking into the engine for possible causes.
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My truck will start and run fine in park, but the O/D off light comes on and whne I shift ti drive, it completly cutts off.
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Tiny
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It sounds like the torque converter isn't disengaging the engine / trans. If the light is on, you need to have the computer scanned to make sure where the problem is coming from. Since the vehicle isn't driveable, contact the local nationally recognized parts stores and see if they will lend or rent a scanner to you.

Let me know what you find.

Joe
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Engine idles down, then stalls shutting off when braking and coming to a stop. Car runs fine while driving and doesn't have any problems when in park, only when its in drive. I replaced the IAC valve after some forums said this could be the problem. I don't know what else to troubleshoot.
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Check the EGR valve and throttle position sensor, also look for vacuum leaks
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Thanks for the quick reply. The EGR valve and idle position sensor, are those things I can check/replace myself?
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Yes you could with a repair manual
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Car will not stay running unless I am reving the enginei can drive it as long as I do not come off the gas. When I do come off the gas the car stalls out.
Any Idea what this could be. Thank You
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Tiny
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I have had this same problem with two vehicles that I own, and each time it was a leak in the vacuum line that ties into the air intake. This was on an Escort and not an Explorer but it sounds exactly the same. There was a small rubber hose that tied in between the air filter and the throttle body. This had a hole that was leaking. The other time my wife said her Focus Was doing the same thing. I went out and the same vacuum line had come off. Each time when I connected the hose or put my finger on the leak the car idled perfectly.
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When I shift into drive the engine shuts down. It will idle and shift into reverse.
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Hello,

It sounds like you have a problem with the transmission range sensor but to be sure lets run the codes to see what comes up.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/checking-a-service-engine-soon-or-check-engine-light-on-or-flashing

Please run down this guide and report back.

Cheers, Ken
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Tiny
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Hi and thanks for using 2CarPros.com. I have to say this could be the result of many different things. I would recommend getting a scanner to determine if there are any trouble codes present. This type of issue can be transmission solenoid related, torque converter related, engine sensor (such as a manifold absolute pressure sensor) and the list goes on. Here is a video for using a scanner:

https://youtu.be/YV3TRZwer8k

Once you determine if there are codes stored, let me know which ones are present.
That way I can better guide you.

Let me know what you find.

Take care,
Joe
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Tiny
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When I star my truck and switch into Reverse or Drive, the engine shuts off sometimes. In addition, when im at a stop (foot on the brake) the car sometimes jerks.
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Has the check engine light come on? Does it feel like you are stopping with a manual transmission and not pushing in the clutch?

Let me know.
Joe
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Tiny
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Our explorer has suddenly started to struggle with idling. We are new to a cold weather climate and the problem started as soon as it became cold. The car won't idle on it's own, unless we apply gas and then it takes a good 10 minutes before it will idle on it's own. If the car has been driven regularly, we don't seem to have the problem. Any idea what our problem is?
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Friday, October 9th, 2020 AT 12:37 PM (Merged)
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Hi:
Chances are it's a problem with either the idle air control valve (IAC), or the throttle position sensor (TPS). However, this is a guess. What I recommend it to take the car to a nationally recognized parts store and have them scan it for trouble codes. Most stores will do it for free and it will help identify the problem.

Let me know what you find.

Joe
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