Car keeps stalling

Tiny
JAY32
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  • 2005 CHRYSLER 300
  • 5.7L
  • 2WD
  • 124,575 MILES
The car ran fine but the check engine light was on, had codes checked and an O2 sensor and oil pressure sensor. Reminder that the great ran perfectly fine. I changed the oil pressure sensor and harness for it. Seemed good for a bit then stalled out, thought I ran out of gas because the light was on (this car is new to me) said twenty miles to empty. Had gas brought to me, started right up, went to gas station filled up, went and had the codes cleared by mechanic, reminded me. That I need a 02 sensor so the check engine light would come on. Back on but I shouldn't notice it run any different, seemed okay again, then was stuttering but not stalling a few times to now stalling all the time. It wasn't throwing any codes for a while then threw like 7or 8 codes all related to the 02 sensors. We're able to change the back two hoping not to have to replace all took it for a test drive and this time my car didn't stall but a voltage indicator flashed, and I had no throttle, but the engine was still running, kind of rough like. It threw another code for a module I believe. I unplugged the battery for a few minutes and tried again. It hasn't done that type of stall again but still regular stalling and throwing all codes again for the 02 sensors. Will 02 sensors really cause all these issues? We're changing the front two today and hope it's fine. When the car is running all the gauges are fine, oil, temperature, voltage.
Sunday, April 24th, 2022 AT 5:50 AM

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Tiny
JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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Hi,

An O2 sensor can create an issue with the air/fuel mixture in the engine. It certainly can cause it to run rough and stall. By chance, have you ever noticed any dark smoke from the exhaust when it was running rough? Also, could you let me know the codes that are set?

The idea that you ran out of gas can be causing issues also. I've seen the fuel pump damaged as a result of running out of fuel. You may simply have low fuel pressure causing a lean fuel mixture.

Let me know what the codes are so I can look deeper into the possible problems.

Take care,

Joe
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Sunday, April 24th, 2022 AT 7:10 PM
Tiny
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Codes are p0031, 32, 37, 38, 51, 51, 57, 58 for sure then once it threw p61c. After unplugging the battery, the p61c hasn't happened. Changed both downstream, one was wrong the auto parts store sold me the wrong one, put on correct one. Tried doing the upstream but couldn't get them off so I have an appointment with a mechanic for those two. Now I can't remember of I said this in the first question but the last I bought it from only ran premium and when I thought I ran out of gas I filled it with midgrade because it was cheaper. I had already had code 0522 so I need I needed an 02 sensor since I bought the car, would changing the fuel like that mess it/all the sensors up like that. I do remember my car shutting off while I was just sitting in park the day before when I had plenty of gas, before all this started happening so I don't feel like I ran out of gas but let it too low maybe? Should I put a fuel treatment in it? To compensate for the lower grade gas?
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Tuesday, April 26th, 2022 AT 4:39 AM
Tiny
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Hi,

I don't feel the mid-grade fuel is the issue. Manufacturers recommend it because for different reasons. For example, a turbocharged engine, an engine with a higher compression ratio, and so on. It's not that mid-grade would hurt the vehicle, but it is likely going to affect performance.

As far as the codes are concerned, yes, all but two are related to the o2 sensors. Here is the thing. Some indicate a sig high voltage and others sig low voltage. These are usually caused by opposite things. High readings are usually the result of a short to power and low a short to ground. Next, as you already know, one is for the oil pressure switch.

The interesting one is the P061C. This code is related to the electronic throttle control (ECT). I suspect there is an issue with the PCM. Either it needs to be flashed (reprogrammed), there are connection issues, or the PCM itself is bad.

I attached the directions for programming below. Let me know if this is something you have the tooling to complete. I realize the code may not have returned, but this is the direction I would suggest.

Let me know.

Joe

See pics below.
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Tuesday, April 26th, 2022 AT 5:21 PM
Tiny
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Thank you for the advice. I will talk to the mechanic about this tomorrow as well
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Tuesday, April 26th, 2022 AT 5:55 PM
Tiny
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You are very welcome. Let me know what you find. I'm interested in knowing.

Take care,

Joe
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Tuesday, April 26th, 2022 AT 6:08 PM
Tiny
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Hey there, back again. I got all four 02 sensors changed. Now it's not stalling anymore but a new code p0430 is on.
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Thursday, April 28th, 2022 AT 5:11 AM
Tiny
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Hey Jay32,

Just to jump in on this, that is great that it is not stalling any more. This code is for the converter not being efficient which could be a faulty new sensor, or it could be the converter and now that you have new sensors the PCM is actually learning that the converter has failed.

However, we need to get a new post started for this simply because we need to keep each post to one topic. Others will not find the solution to the code under this topic so let's get a new post started and we can get the details for this code.

Thanks again
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Thursday, April 28th, 2022 AT 4:34 PM

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