Brake pulsates at 5 MPH

2010 LEXUS ES 350
117,000 MILES • 6 CYL • 2WD • AUTOMATIC
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Hello, I'm having a small problem from what I am noticing. The issue that I am noticing is when I am driving the car and trying to slow down the car pulsate exactly when my speedometer touches 5 MPH then I pump the brakes and the pulsation goes away.

Things that I have done are: replaced front rotors, front pads, back rotors, back pads. I already made sure there is no air in my brake line. I had to check professionally they couldn't find anything I have not gone to the dealer yet.

I have checked up Google as well to see if I can find anything. I looked at all my calipers to make sure nothing was getting stuck and didn't see anything obvious I already cleaned my ABS sensors for front right. now I'm at lost on what to check next or if anything lastly I do not have any engine light or ABS light. thank you
Jun 12, 2021 at 9:14 AM
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First a question. When the brakes pulse which way does the steering wheel jerk on each pulse? Left or right? If you let go of the wheel when its doing it you will see the wheel move just a bit in one direction or the other. It could be as little as a 1/4 inch. But it will move one direction left or right and then in between pulses the wheel will go back to center.

Rich
Jun 12, 2021 at 1:17 PM
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Is the ABS system kicking in? if so you may have a wheel speed sensor going out. let's start by scanning the system. this guide can help. These videos will help us find the problem:

https://youtu.be/rTtAnsOlZU4

and

https://youtu.be/Pb6nXV-iamI

and

https://youtu.be/ANWVTh2RQoQ

and

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/abs-warning-light-on-easy-repair-guide

Please run down these guides and report back. Can you please shoot a quick video with your phone so we can see what's going on? that would be great. You can upload it here with your response.

Jun 12, 2021 at 6:28 PM
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Let me try this out..give me couple days and I will get back.
Jun 12, 2021 at 7:32 PM
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Please see the video and I hope you hear the pulsation. Also I did not see any pulling to either direction when the car stop or pulsation occurred.
Jun 14, 2021 at 11:54 AM
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I think you forgot to upload the video.
Jun 14, 2021 at 6:40 PM
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3rd time :)
Jun 14, 2021 at 6:51 PM
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If what I think I heard in the the less than 1 second it lasted did sound like the ABS engaging.
Have you retrieved the codes yet?
Jun 14, 2021 at 8:38 PM
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Bye the way, a standard code reader will not work as they basically just read engine codes. You will need a reader that can pull ABS codes.
Jun 14, 2021 at 8:39 PM
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I took it to the shop and they said there is no ABS code. I was thinking of taking it to another shop for 2nd opinion.
Jun 15, 2021 at 7:13 AM
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I will see if I can try to squeeze it this week.
Jun 15, 2021 at 7:14 AM
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You said the engine light was on. Did they get the code for that?
Jun 15, 2021 at 5:45 PM
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No lights were on, sir. no engine no ABS etc.
Jun 15, 2021 at 6:09 PM
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Hi,

We haven't been in touch for a couple of days. Has any progress been made? Based on your description, it does sound like the ABS is engaging at the speed. I suspect you have a faulty wheel speed sensor. You won't get a code if it is failing that way simply because the computer "thinks" you have a wheel skidding. Thus, the ABS is actuated.

What I suggest is to check each wheel's speed sensors. It really isn't difficult to do. Here is a link that explains what to do:

If possible, try that and let me know what you find.

Also, I don't know if you have access to one, but there are scan tools that can read live data and actually show you what each sensor is reading. If you were to see one drip in comparison to the others, that would likely be the one causing the problem.

Regardless, let us know what you find or if you have other questions.

Take care,

Joe
Jun 17, 2021 at 8:12 PM
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Hello,

I have cleaned the ABS sensor in front both tires. No change in situations. I am trying to get ABS sensor scanner from a friend when he is back from a vacation. I should have update mid next week.

Thank you
Jun 18, 2021 at 6:00 AM
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Hi,

You are very welcome. Let us know what you find. We're interested in knowing.

Also, I noticed I forgot to add the link above for testing a sensor. Sorry about that. Here is the link if you want to try it:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/abs-wheel-speed-sensor-test



Take care,

Joe
Jun 18, 2021 at 6:45 PM
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I want to get clarification on the steering wheel turning. I noticed yesterday that when I was at 80 MPH and when I applied brake the steering wheel shook. It did not at 60 MPH. I got balancing done 1 week ago. Should this be part of anything major?

Let me know if I need to add more details.

Thank you
Jun 19, 2021 at 6:03 AM
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Hi,

If you felt it shaking in the steering wheel, that is usually due to the brake rotors being warped or even the pads extremely worn. Have you checked the front brake pads recently? As far as checking the rotors, you won't see the warpage. You will need a dial indicator to make that determination.

The interesting thing is that most times when rotors are warped, you feel that to a degree at any speed. Is that the only time you felt it?

Let me know.

Joe
Jun 19, 2021 at 8:13 PM
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I have found the root cause for my all ABS issues. When I was backing up I heard loud grind and I did not press brakes. I did pump the brakes to release the pressure and the noise was gone. It was my rear caliper being stuck on to my pads. I have already changed the front caliper and will be changing rear in next 2 week. My symptoms has drastically reduced. I am hoping that changing the rear caliper will make this go away. I will follow once I get the opportunity to replace them. Thank you everyone.
Jul 12, 2021 at 7:04 AM
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Hi,

Let me know if that takes care of the problem. I'm not sure if you need it, but here is a link that explains how to replace a brake caliper:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/brake-caliper-replacement

Let me know if I can help.

Take care,

Joe
Jul 12, 2021 at 9:01 PM
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Thank you.
Jul 13, 2021 at 8:06 AM
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You are very welcome. If you have a chance, let me know how things turn out for you. Also, please feel free to come back anytime in the future. You are always welcome here.

Take care,

Joe
Jul 13, 2021 at 8:51 PM
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I took it to another mechanic and he ran another diagnosis and used his advanced computer that I didn't have and he was able to clear the ABS. I think he said he reset it the system and my brake pulsation issue is gone. I've been driving the car for one week now. Thank you for all the feedback everyone.
Sep 15, 2021 at 6:02 AM
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Hi,

I'm glad to hear you got things taken care of. Today's cars are getting more and more advanced and do require scan tools that are able to do more.

Regardless, I'm glad to hear it's fixed. Feel free to come back anytime in the future. You are always welcome here.

Joe
Sep 15, 2021 at 7:43 PM