Turn on the running/parking lights, the brake lights are also on?

2003 HONDA CRV
141,000 MILES • 2.4L • 4 CYL • 4WD • AUTOMATIC
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REYREY2001
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With key/car on, the brake lights would stay on. I replaced the brake switch at the pedal as well as the "stopper" on the pedal arm. Fixed this issue. However, when i turn on the running/parking lights the brake lights are also on. Whether the switch is to the running/parking lights or the headlights, whether i press the brake pedal or not, the brake lights are on. I have noticed before that when i do press the brake pedal, lights off, my running/parking lights come on as well.
Mar 12, 2023 at 2:13 PM
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It sounds like one of your rear taillight bulbs or bulb sockets have shorted together back feeding the brake light circuit. I would remove the rear lens to inspect all bulbs and sockets to look for such a connection, here is what I am talking about and how to remove the rear lens in the images below.

This guide can help as well:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/no-tail-lights-exterior-running-lights-tail-lights-out

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Mar 13, 2023 at 10:06 AM
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REYREY2001
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Looked at all sockets and connections while i was replacing bulbs. I also thought maybe someone jumped taillight brake light but nothing was found.
Mar 13, 2023 at 11:23 AM
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Is there a trailer wiring connector? If so, that is the next place, I would look to see if a connection is shorted together. Here are the taillight and brake light wiring diagrams so you can see how the system works.

Here is a guide to help you check the connections:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-wiring

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Mar 14, 2023 at 9:12 AM
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REYREY2001
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No. No trailer wiring. No tow-hitch. This is going to be my niece's surprise birthday gift at the end of April.
Mar 14, 2023 at 10:03 AM
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Can you confirm the brake light bulbs are the correct ones? They should have two connections at the bottom of the bulb, not one.
Mar 15, 2023 at 11:43 AM
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REYREY2001
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I do not recall the part number but i do know the rear blinkers and brake lights take the same bulb which is the standard traditional round bottom kind with a prong on each side. The rear taillights have a blade type connection.
Mar 15, 2023 at 1:45 PM
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REYREY2001
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Rear blinkers and brake lights twist into the socket. The rear taillights push in.
Mar 15, 2023 at 1:49 PM
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As you can see from the wiring diagrams the two-lighting system do not cross except at the bulb and socket. Can you remove both brake light bulb and inspect and upload a picture of the bottom of the bulb please? You may have a wiring loom that has shorted together as well so please inspect the wiring for damage.
Mar 16, 2023 at 10:54 AM
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My work has me on a crazy schedule today and tomorrow but i will for sure respond with pictures on Sunday.
Mar 17, 2023 at 8:20 AM
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If it makes any difference, i have the UK model not Japan model.
Mar 17, 2023 at 11:22 AM
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No problem, if you can upload the picture of the brake light/running light bulb (dual filament) that would be great.
Mar 19, 2023 at 11:06 AM
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Driver's side.
Mar 19, 2023 at 11:40 AM
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Passenger side.
Mar 19, 2023 at 11:41 AM
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Bulbs
Mar 19, 2023 at 11:42 AM
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Another way to rephrase my situation would be to say that my brake lights and my tail/running lights are tied together; switch (by steering wheel) and brake switch (at the brake pedal).
Mar 19, 2023 at 11:48 AM
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Yep, you have found the problem, this socket has two terminals and you have a signal terminal bulb in it. Install the correct bulb and it should fix it.
Mar 20, 2023 at 11:19 AM
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Wow! That was it! I asked the guy at the auto part store and i heard him mumble that i probably didn't have the Great Britain model and i said that i did. He then said they were 2 different style bulbs. You don't know how much i appreciate all your help! Thank you!!
Mar 20, 2023 at 6:33 PM
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