Black fuel leak at fuel filler neck when gas tank is full

Tiny
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Hey guys,

I have a new problem. When my gas tank is full, I'm getting a black fuel leak from around the fuel filler neck. I drove about 30 miles to work, burning off about a gallon of fuel, and while it was parked for 2+ hours it didn't leak anymore. I did have this happen once before after replacing the fuel pump a few weeks ago. A hack mechanic put it in wrong, not properly attaching the new fuel pump cylinder into the plastic canister, so it was just sort of hanging there spraying fuel all over. I assumed that was the problem since I didn't see it again after properly attaching the fuel pump.

Note: yesterday I filled up a full 14 gallons, then put in a 10 ounce fuel injector cleaner after filling up. So I guess I may have overfilled it barely by doing this and aggravated the leak. But I didn't do anything like that before the last leak a few weeks ago, and I don't think it was anywhere near as full as it is now.

Anyway, I read that the fuel filler neck rusts out on these cars and needs replacing. Is that likely my issue? What other parts should be replaced in conjunction with the fuel filler neck, since they've got 20 years of wear on them.

I'm attaching a video of the leak. It was really bad this morning before I drove it.
Wednesday, April 29th, 2020 AT 10:14 AM

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Tiny
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Right now I'm looking at buying the fuel filler neck and fuel filler hose with clamps. From looking at the service manual, I'm wondering if I should also replace the 2 vapor hoses and pipe assembly? My muffler has been making a lot of noise as well rattling around so I may try and include that as well.

Okay, just realized that's the muffler, not the fuel filler neck, lol! So obviously the fuel is being leaked onto it from the fuel tank above. I guess that implies there's either a crack in the gas tank or it's simply from it being overfilled. Hmm. I wish I looked further up the chain with the camera earlier to see the source of the leak.

I guess this still must tie back to changing the fuel pump then. Unless there's a big coincidence going on and an unrelated leak started simultaneously. From doing some reading it's probably just a loose fuel line on the fuel pump, possibly a bad quick disconnect on the hose that has it. I know I checked both hoses for wear and cracks and they were in good condition. I also reconnected them as far as they'd go without causing damage. Does an old quick disconnect connector on one of the fuel pump lines sound like a likely culprit? Perhaps it was fine when undisturbed, but after being moved it isn't sealing again properly. Problem is I'm not quite sure which one to buy if that's the case.
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Wednesday, April 29th, 2020 AT 10:44 AM
Tiny
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I think I may have found the culprit. When I pulled up the metal plate covering the fuel pump, the whole canister was being moved around by the connector still attached. So I hadn't tightened up the locking ring nearly tight enough last time. This time I tightened it as tight as it would go. The quick disconnect on that hose seems pretty well attached, and again both hoses are in good condition. Hopefully that was the issue.
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Wednesday, April 29th, 2020 AT 11:45 AM
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Hello, I'm Danny.

Yes, It seems in your description you have a good idea of the key components that are possibly causing the leak. You definitely need to repair ASAP due to this being dangerous to have any type of fuel leak. Unless you have some type of mini camera to snake around you will most likely have to lower the tank to see where it's leaking from. Due to age it could be a rotted or cracked hose, bad fuel line connector, crack in fuel tank, etc, like you have mentioned. I have attached picture tank removal steps below as well as all the fuel tank components below. Hope this helps and thanks for using 2CarPros.
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Wednesday, April 29th, 2020 AT 12:00 PM
Tiny
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Does the loose locking ring on the fuel pump seem like a good culprit? Never had leaks before until we messed with the fuel pump. Which is just under the back seat, meaning we didn't touch the rest of the gas tank and fuel supply system. So I'm definitely hoping that this is all that it was.
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Wednesday, April 29th, 2020 AT 12:11 PM
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Hello again.

Yes, that's a possibility.It could be the fuel pump or lock ring gasket or o-ring got pinched or damaged upon assembly.Maybe the lock ring wasn't tightened enough or the fuel pump wasn't indexed properly. Definitely worth looking into. Here is a tutorial for you to view:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-replace-an-electric-fuel-pump

Hope this helps and thanks again for using 2CarPros.
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Wednesday, April 29th, 2020 AT 12:18 PM
Tiny
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This was just the Fuel Pump Tank Seal not being on right (and the locking ring which I had fixed before). It's really challenging to get that all back on right with that locking ring. Since there's a new fuel pump cylinder in there, I shouldn't have to mess with it for many years.
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Thursday, May 21st, 2020 AT 5:40 PM
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Hello again.

So, were you able to fix the leak? I hope so. Sounds like you got the problem solved. If you have any further problems on the issue please let us know. I hope you will use us again for any further questions in the future. Take care and thanks again for using 2CarPros.

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Thursday, May 21st, 2020 AT 9:37 PM
Tiny
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Hi Danny,

Yes, thank you, the fuel leak is fixed. It was the fuel pump tank seal not being properly in place. You guys are definitely very helpful so there's no doubt I'll continue to ask questions here.

Adam
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Thursday, May 21st, 2020 AT 9:43 PM
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You're welcome Adam!
Glad to help. Hope you are well in these crazy times. Stay safe. Thanks again for using 2CarPros.

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Thursday, May 21st, 2020 AT 9:50 PM
Tiny
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Thanks Danny, I hope you are good as well. This problem resurfaced after I filled up last week. Both the fuel lines going to the engine and from the filler are properly connected to the fuel pump. So I ordered a new fuel pump tank seal/gasket (I still have the original one since I only replaced the fuel pump cylinder/module, not the whole canister. Bad choice in retrospect). My question is, should I use any extra sealer or lubricant to ensure a better seal? Anything to put in the threads of the locking ring or on the gasket itself? Any other tips to ensure the gasket stays in place and is properly lined up? I want to make sure and never have this leak again.
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Thursday, June 11th, 2020 AT 5:59 PM
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Hello again.

Sorry to hear you're having this issue again. If you're going to install a new o-ring just be careful to not pinch or tear the new one when installing. Just take your time to prevent misalignment. No, I would suggest not to use any other type of sealant or gasket material. That would add more of a possibility of leaking. Do not use anything on the lock ring threads either. As in my earlier post above make sure the mating mark is lined up to ensure a proper seal. Let me know if you have any further questions about this after re installing new o ring. Hope this all helps and thanks again for using 2CarPros.

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Friday, June 12th, 2020 AT 1:30 PM
Tiny
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This was indeed the Fuel Pump Tank Seal/gasket. The one in there had a big tear that went about halfway down in one corner. Since replacing it, there is no more fuel leak and I'm guessing P0442 won't come back either (I also got a new OEM gas cap to help with that).
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Saturday, July 11th, 2020 AT 4:47 PM
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Hello again.

Hopefully this solved the fuel leak problem. Having a gas cap with a cracked or defective o-ring seal will definitely turn the check engine light and register an evaporative system code like P0442 for a fuel system leak. Glad to hear you finally got this fixed. Keep me updated if the code comes back. Thanks again for using 2CarPros and use us again in the future if needed.

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Sunday, July 12th, 2020 AT 1:05 AM

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