Battery not charging?

Tiny
LUCASISNOTFORHAIR
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  • 2009 DODGE RAM
  • 5.7L
  • V8
  • 4WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 150,000 MILES
The truck listed above is a 2500 with a 5.7 Hemi.

Both the alternator and battery have been replaced. Vehicle will start and run if battery is charged with a charger. While running with lights and blower fan on (just to create some load) I can turn it off and start it back up a few times before the battery is depleted to the point that it will not turnover.

When started with a charged battery, it will keep running if battery is disconnected while running.

I've only been able to show voltage from e-brake and it will show 14.X while running. I'll get a decent multimeter tomorrow to test further, I just don't know where to start. I haven't been turning a wrench as much as I once did. Any vehicle with a computer makes me lose faith in what I know!

I have the OBDII scanner, but there are no codes. No check engine light.
Wednesday, March 19th, 2025 AT 7:11 PM

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Tiny
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I can't stress this hard enough, never remove a battery cable with the engine running. That is a very easy way to destroy every computer on the truck. It's a "test" mechanics did in the 1960s when they didn't understand how these simple systems work. To further complicate the issue, depending on how the voltage regulator is designed, an engine can stall with a properly working charging system, and it is possible for an engine to keep running with a defect in the charging system, so that "test" is not valid.

The place to start is by measuring the battery's voltage with the engine off. If it's good and fully charged, it will be close to 12.6 volts. 12.2 volts indicates it's good but fully discharged. Next, measure again with the engine running. Now it should be between 13.75 to 14.75 volts. If it is, that only means it is okay to do the rest of the tests, but those require a professional load tester. Specifically, we want to see "full-load output current", and "ripple" voltage.

Full-load output current will be very close to the design rating of your alternator, 0.0 amps, or exactly one third of the design rating. One third of that rating points to one failed internal diode of the six. In that condition, you can get enough current to keep the engine running, but as additional loads are turned on, the battery will have to make up the shortfall until it slowly runs down.

If you let me know what you find up to this point, we'll figure out where to go next.
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Thursday, March 20th, 2025 AT 2:21 PM

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