Battery light turns on only when braking

Tiny
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  • 2003 VOLKSWAGEN PASSAT
  • V6
  • 2WD
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  • 170,000 MILES
I had replaced by battery and alternator about 6 months ago. Everything was ok until recently when the battery light turned on again. The thing is, it turns on when I brake or am stopped in traffic, and it turns off while I am driving. Does this likely mean that the alternator is broken, or could there be another cause?
Monday, November 23rd, 2015 AT 4:16 PM

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Tiny
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A common cause of this is one failed diode of the six inside the generator. You need a professional load tester to check for this. With a bad diode, you'll be able to get only a maximum of exactly one third of the generator's rated current. You didn't bother to list the engine size so I can't look up the size of your generator, but for the common 90 amp unit, 30 amps is not enough to run the entire electrical system under all conditions. Turning on additional loads, such as the brake lights, will result in the electrical system voltage dropping. That will turn on the "Battery" warning light. Also, since all generators lose efficiency at lower speeds, the system voltage will drop when idling too.

The load test will show maximum output current and "ripple" voltage. Those will show if there's a defective diode in the generator.
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Monday, November 23rd, 2015 AT 4:46 PM
Tiny
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Thank you very much for the quick reply. Sorry I didn't post the size of my engine because I don't know it, but your answer is very helpful. Does this likely mean the 6 month old alternator is likely to go completely soon?
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Monday, November 23rd, 2015 AT 5:31 PM
Tiny
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Diodes don't fail real often. When you get a replacement generator, a new one would be horribly expensive, so you always get a rebuilt unit. Since those diodes don't fail often, and since they're relatively difficult / time-consuming to replace, they don't get replaced. That means even though your generator is only six months old, it has parts in it that are original. Normally just the brushes and bearings are replaced, and everything else is reused.

Diodes can fail anytime but it's more likely to occur when they get older. That's what your symptoms point to, but don't take my word for it. The load test will tell whether I'm right or wrong.
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Monday, November 23rd, 2015 AT 6:28 PM

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