Back brakes install

Tiny
TSHUMP18
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  • 2008 HYUNDAI ELANTRA
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I replaced all 4 brakes on the vehicle roughly 2 years ago (at most, probably more in the 1 1/2 year range) and things worked great. The car doesn't get driven on a regular basis and when COVID hit, it sat in the driveway for nearly 3 months. Maybe driven 4 times in that time frame.

Not sure if that has any factor in things other than they were pretty rusty and I've done some clean up. But while doing this I've discovered something I think is "off."

Now, I hadn't replaced brakes by myself before, at least back brakes so that may come into play here. The fronts look and feel great. Those are fairly easy.

But with backs you have to deal with the ABS and/or e-brake and I think that's where things are again "off." I know in the backs you have that plug to remove and then you have to painfully use a screw driver and twist that lever in there.

1) What exactly does that lever do? I know it loosens, but what exactly does it?
2) Is there an easier way to spin that damned thing?

I say all this because the brakes are still pretty dang new. Tons of surface and material left on the rotors and the pads look barely worn, so that cannot be it. However, the e-brake when you pull it, you nearly can pull it all the way up before it engages. It works, but I know when you pull it that high that typically says the brakes are shot, which they are not. Leading me to believe something was missed in the install.

Just looking to confirm or debunk my theory and hear any thoughts and suggestions you may have.

Thank you.

-Allen (you've probably gotten to know me pretty well, I've posted quite a bit!)
Thursday, September 17th, 2020 AT 7:34 AM

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Tiny
DANNY L
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Hello, I'm Danny.

Just curious to know if when you did the rear brake pads did you also change the emergency brake shoes? Usually what I do after installing the shoes is adjust them just enough to get the rotor on. After putting everything together then you will only have a minimal adjustment to do to tighten the emergency brake.You mentioned you used a screw driver put at parts stores you can buy a cheap brake adjustment tool that works better.Here is a tutorial for you to look at showing how to change emergency brake shoes:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/parking-brake-shoe-replacement

I've also attached a picture below showing what the emergency brake shoes look like.Let me know if you have any further questions on this issue and hope this helps.Thanks again for using 2CarPros.
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Thursday, February 25th, 2021 AT 11:07 AM
Tiny
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Well my man, that's it! I didn't do the parking brake shoes. Son of a.

Thank you. I remember back when doing this and they were really bad at the time. There were rusted or corroded things falling into the pan when I took the old (what was left of them) off and saying to myself "what the heck is this?" Now I know what it was. When I got the rotors and pads the dudes at the shop said this is all you need. Don't recall ever being asked "need parking brake shoes?" At least not specifically. Oh well, all good. I got shoes last night and going to do some exploration today on things. My worry is that if the shoes aren't there and the old were so bad/corroded that the springs aren't there as well and that would suck!

However, the brakes have been working great overall. This was all prompted during the COVID period and that car sitting around and the brakes getting build up and then when trying to "brake clean" them by driving around and pumping the brakes it wasn't getting nearly as good as I would imagine (fronts cleaned up nice), I started exploring other things. So, I've got the parking brake shoes and some tools to do it. I guess if the shoes are not there it's one less step. Removal! But if I get under there during my exploration and get too intimated I'll go to the shop. Have one right across the street that's awesome. Just trying to save some dough. :)

I'll keep you in the loop.

As always, thank you!
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Thursday, February 25th, 2021 AT 11:07 AM
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DANNY L
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Hello again.

Yes, the emergency has no effect on the braking system. It is strictly for the emergency brake only. One thing I suggest is use your cell phone and take a picture of the complete assembly before you take apart. I say this because things might come up, distractions, etc, and then whoops how did this go together. I've attached a picture below of the assembly and my prior post had the tutorial attached on how to replace. Hope this helps and keep us updated. Let me now if you have any further questions on this issue and thanks again for using 2CarPros.

Danny-
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