A/C Low Pressure Compressor?

Tiny
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It has been a hot summer here, so my car A/C hasn't been working well. I need the front and rear A/C in my Navigator to be running for me to feel any cold. In the morning, when the sun has not been on for a while, I can get some cold. However, when I drive in the afternoon after the car has been sitting in the sun for a while, the car doesn't get cold even after I have been driving for a while with the front and rear A/C on.
So, I decided to extract whatever little refrigerant is left in the car and recharge it myself. The problem is the service port for the low-pressure side is horizontal and in a very tight area. I am using a four-way manifold set to extract. When I tried to attach the coupler at the end of the low-pressure hose, there wasn't enough space for me to attach the coupler to the service port even though the coupler is only 1.75 inches. Is there a way to find a coupler smaller than this?
Tuesday, August 22nd, 2023 AT 12:02 AM

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Tiny
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The low side charge port is on the accumulator, I am not sure of the port you are finding. Can you upload an image? Check out the images (below). Please let us know what happens.
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Tuesday, August 22nd, 2023 AT 1:11 PM
Tiny
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Thank you for your reply. Yes, that is the service port that I have been trying to attach the coupler to. I attach the video below showing the service port without coupler (first 2s) and with the coupler (last 2s) at the end of the blue hose. The problem is that the space beyond the service port is so small that I am unable to line up the quick coupler well and clip it onto the service port. My question is that where can I find a coupler that is small enough to fix it to the service port. Is there a different type of coupler to attach the hose to the service port?
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Tuesday, August 22nd, 2023 AT 6:57 PM
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It is hard to tell from the video can you take another and upload it to our site? Is it on the accumulator?
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Thursday, August 24th, 2023 AT 10:39 AM
Tiny
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This is it. Thanks.
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Sunday, August 27th, 2023 AT 9:16 PM
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It looks like there is room for the service connector?
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Monday, August 28th, 2023 AT 9:58 AM
Tiny
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For some reason, the connectors that I bought do not fit because of the small space. I thought the quick connect I am using which is only 1.75 inches long is too long. There is one object on the other side of the service port that is not letting the quick connect fit horizontally so I can then push it onto the service port.
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Monday, August 28th, 2023 AT 10:09 PM
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Can you move the item that is obstructing you from doing the job? If not you will need to get a shorter service coupler.
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Tuesday, August 29th, 2023 AT 10:23 AM
Tiny
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Sorry for the long break in my replies. Fall, winter and spring came, making it less urgent to have A/C. I finally found a quick connect that worked. I measured the pressure and it was 0 psig on the low pressure and high pressure sides. I was able to pull a vacuum of -29 mm Hg on the system, and this held for about 1 hour. I then connected 1 can of Supertech R134A refrigerant to it and tried to draw it into the low side service port. I could see some liquid going in through the sight glass, the pressures on both side increased with the low side going up and then decreasing, and the high side going up slowly. After a short while, the liquid flow stopped. Even though I kept going for a while, it seemed the refrigerant wasn't going in anymore. I was only able to get about half the can content in. I then started with a fresh can, a similar thing happened with only half the can going in. I tried a third can can and only about half or one-third went in. From the three cans, I have only been able to get a maximum of 18 ozs used out of the 36 ozs in the three cans. The capacity of ny A/C is 62 ozs. The final pressure was 45 psig on the low side and 110 psig on the high side.
In trying to find out what is going on, I found online that the A/C compressor might not be engaging.
1) How do I know if the compressor is engaging?
2) Where is the compressor on my navigator so I can get a visual confirmation?
3) What can I do to make sure the compressor engages
4) How do I make sure that all the contents of a can is used and used quickly?
Thank you in advance for your help,
Moyo.
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Saturday, May 18th, 2024 AT 11:53 PM
Tiny
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Sorry, I forgot to add this to the questions above.
5) Is it advisable to drive the Navigator a few miles around? Maybe that will distribute the refrigerant around the system and make recharging a bit easier?
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Sunday, May 19th, 2024 AT 6:27 AM
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Driving it will not help, and AC compressor is down low on the passenger side of the engine. Here is a guide to help you, please go over it.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-air-conditioner-not-working-or-is-weak

When you turn the ac system on you should be able to see and hear the clutch kick on. Please check the image below to show you the location of the compressor. Check out the images (below). Please upload pictures or videos in your response of any problems so we can see what to help you with.
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Monday, May 20th, 2024 AT 12:22 PM
Tiny
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I followed the articles you posted above on A/C not working. I measured the static pressure and the pressures were zero. I then decided to pull a vacuum again on the system. It did go down to -30 psig but it wouldn't hold vacuum for 45 minutes no matter how much I tried. I therefore decided to take it to the mechanic. They did a diagnostic on the AC and found out that the compressor is bad. They recommend that I change the compressor, the front and rear evaporators, front and rear condensers etc, Now I am in the process of deciding whether it's worth spending that amount on this old car. Thanks.
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Saturday, May 25th, 2024 AT 11:22 PM
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Hmm, I would just do the compressor which is common, did they say why they wanted to replace all the extra parts? Please start a new thread for the compressor replaced so I can help you fix the car. You can get a compressor for about $140.00
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Sunday, May 26th, 2024 AT 9:30 AM
Tiny
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Thank you very much. I will start a new thread.
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Tuesday, May 28th, 2024 AT 10:40 AM
Tiny
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I found out that my A/C was not cooling. I then measured the pressure but it was 0 psig both on the low pressure side and the high pressure side. I evacuated the system but the vacuum would not hold for up to 1 hr. I then took it to a shop for diagnostics. I also note that the SUV has an additional A/C in the rear. The result came back that the compressor was bad and the shop has proposed for me to replace the compressor, the front and rear evaporators and condensers and driers.
Is it possible for me to just replace the compressor or at least reduce the scope of the work? Thanks in advance.
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Tuesday, May 28th, 2024 AT 1:46 PM (Merged)
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The big issue there is that if the compressor failed internally they can send shrapnel (black death) through the parts of the system after the compressor that you cannot simply flush to remove the trash. In your case with the rear AC that means the rear components as well as the front and Ford didn't include anything to stop it from circulating in the system as it failed. Unfortunately that means replacing much of the system.
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Tuesday, May 28th, 2024 AT 1:46 PM (Merged)
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I would take the system apart to see how much it is had been contaminated. You might be okay and just need to flush the system which you can get at the auto parts store.

This guide can help with the job:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/replace-air-conditioner-compressor

And then please go over this video for the recharge:

https://youtu.be/4EqdrBVb0sY?si=jjq_6PRwZes9P-uE

Please go over these guides and get back to us.
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Wednesday, May 29th, 2024 AT 8:38 AM

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