How to fix Geo Master cylinder and power booster brakes

Tiny
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I recently just finished building a trike but am having troubles with the brakes. They work but take much too long to slow down/stop suddenly. They don't seem to be locking. I tried both the front and rear port of the master cylinder which made no difference. Should I try bleeding the brakes again? If you have any ideas I'd appreciate it.

If you need specs:
Rear end: Model 200 Nissan
Brakes: Geo master cylinder and power booster
Thursday, December 29th, 2011 AT 6:48 PM

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Tiny
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Is it disc brakes?
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Thursday, December 29th, 2011 AT 6:51 PM
Tiny
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USING ONLY ONE PORT OF THE MASTER CYLINDER?

BOTH SIDES FULL OF FLUID?

IS THE OTHER PLUGGED OFF?

IF PLUGGED, MAYBE THAT PORT IS BUILDING PRESSURE INSTANTLY--AND NOT ALLOWING THE PISTON TO TRAVEL FURTHER TO MOVE FLUID IN THE OTHER RESERVOIR

JUST THROWING CRAP---I'VE NEVER USED ONLY HALF OF A MASTER CYLINDER

TIE 'EM/ TEE 'EM TOGETHER?

PUMP ONE SIDE DRY AND LEAVE IT UNPLUGGED?

USE A SINGLE RESERVOIR MASTER CYLINDER AS MY 1946 WILLYS JEEP USES?

MAYBE SOMETHING I SUGGESTED WILL HELP OR SPARK AN IDEA

THE MEDIC
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Thursday, December 29th, 2011 AT 9:13 PM
Tiny
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Tee them together was a thought I also had. Got enough vaccum to booster? Does pedal feel right? Aint no proportioning valve inline some where? Did you actually look at brake parts in wheels?
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Thursday, December 29th, 2011 AT 10:09 PM
Tiny
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Yes they are disc brakes and one side is plugged and the other runs to the rear brakes. No proportioning valve inline.

How do you test vacuum to the booster, I just have vacuum in hose.

Teeing them together sounds like a good idea, do you think it would work without a proportioning valve?
Yes and brakes look good, they just take a long time to slow down and the pedal pushes in further than expected.
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Friday, December 30th, 2011 AT 2:03 AM
Tiny
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Remove the hose on the booster check for vacuum. If the front is running on handle bar master. Youll need to install a 1 port master that has the same hook ups and specs. As oe. If you want the booster. It has to have everything that was on the orignal sys.
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Friday, December 30th, 2011 AT 2:27 AM
Tiny
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That's what I was assuming original handelbar front brakes?
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Friday, December 30th, 2011 AT 5:55 AM
Tiny
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Yes the original handlebars front brakes are fine.

If the master cylinder is lower than the calipers, would that make a difference in the movement of fluid and brake performance?
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Friday, December 30th, 2011 AT 6:48 PM
Tiny
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Interesting question? I would guess NO.
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Friday, December 30th, 2011 AT 8:59 PM
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Thank you all for your responses I've been trying all the advice you've given me with no luck so far but if I have any more questions I'll post them here. Hope you like the trike I'll add a few more pictures for you.
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Saturday, December 31st, 2011 AT 12:33 AM
Tiny
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Will teeing together give twice the hydraulic pressure? Is caliper piston size relavent to master cylinder bore diameter? Dos booster feel like it is functioning ok?
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Saturday, December 31st, 2011 AT 1:13 AM
Tiny
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Whats the vacuum reading at the booster line?Its obvice your not getting any brake assist. Hard pedal right. Ty for using 2carpros
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Saturday, December 31st, 2011 AT 6:22 PM
Tiny
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I teed the lines together and it seems to be working just fine thank you for all your help!
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Saturday, December 31st, 2011 AT 7:27 PM
Tiny
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MY GOSH CJ MEDEVAC. YOU ARE A GENIOUS!

GLAD YOU GOT IT WORKIN'

THE MEDIC
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Saturday, December 31st, 2011 AT 7:34 PM
Tiny
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GLAD U FIXED IT. HAPPY NEW YEAR P/S NICE TOY
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Saturday, December 31st, 2011 AT 8:29 PM

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