Timing Belt Marks?

Tiny
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Hi. Just fitted the 3 timing belts to a kia carnival. Did the front belt first and reassembled. Started engine and all was fine. After I fitted the rear belts it developed a rough idle. I assumed it was from a cam being out of time. I didnt use the marks given coz its hard to understand so I used a pointer on one cam each bank and made my own mark on the other cams. All marks seem to line up so im at a loss please help. Steve

Friday, October 19th, 2012 AT 9:37 AM

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Tiny
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I would start with checking the cam timing again, the rear cam is the hardest to see, i have sen these one tooth out ensure that this is correct first. Use the factory timing marks as your guide as well.

This engine is the same check out the marks

https://www.2carpros.com/diagrams/kia/sedona/2005

Please run down this guide and report back.
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Saturday, October 20th, 2012 AT 2:19 PM
Tiny
MICHAEL ANGELOU SALVAÑA
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Please help me. What is the correct timing belt measurement?
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Thursday, October 24th, 2019 AT 1:21 PM (Merged)
Tiny
STEVE W.
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If you are asking when it should be changed, every 60,000 miles. If you mean how long is it, 152 teeth on the belt. If you are asking about the routing see the image.
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Thursday, October 24th, 2019 AT 1:21 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hi, can I get timing belt diagram? I think the engine is totally different?

....thx


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/534155_Kia_carnival_1.jpg

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Thursday, October 24th, 2019 AT 1:21 PM (Merged)
Tiny
KEN L
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Hello MKUATLY,

Here are the instructions and diagrams you need to get the job done:

Remove the engine cover.
Remove the drive belt.
Remove the idler pulley, crankshaft pulley, power steering pulley and tensioner pulley.
Remove the upper and lower timing belt cover.
Support the engine with garage jack or special tool, and then remove the engine mounting insulator.
Caution: Take care not to deform the engine oil pan.
Remove the auto tensioner.
Notice: Rotate the crankshaft clockwise and align the timing mark to get the No.1 cylinder's piston be in TDC position (compression stroke). At this time, the timing marks of the camshaft sprocket and cylinder head cover should coincide with each other.
Remove the timing belt.
Notice: When re-using timing belt, make sure of marking the rotating direction on the belt so as to install correctly.

Installation

Method of installing timing belt and auto tensioner
Install the idler pulley to the engine support lower bracket.
Install the tensioner arm, shaft and plain washer to the cylinder block. Tightening torque: 35 - 55 Nm (350 - 550 kg-cm, 25.82 - 40.57 ft. Lbs.)
Install the crankshaft sprocket.
Notice: Confirm if timing marks coincide with.
Caution: Align the spacer with a pin, and assemble it exerting even force not to deform the crankshaft sensing blade.
Install the camshaft sprocket. Align it like initial state as shown.
Caution: When installing camshaft sprocket, tighten the bolt holding hexagonal part of camshaft to prevent it from turning.
Install the auto tensioner to the oil pump case.
Caution: At this time the auto tensioner's set pin should be assembled completely.
Align the timing marks of each sprocket and install the timing belt, maintaining the proper belt tension between each shaft in this order. Crankshaft sprocket -> Idler pulley -> Left bank exhaust camshaft sprocket -> Left bank intake camshaft sprocket -> Water pump pulley -> Right bank intake camshaft sprocket -> Right bank exhaust camshaft sprocket -> Tensioner pulley.
Caution:
1 As a result of this, position of No.1 cylinder comes to compression TDC.
2 As each camshaft sprocket tends to rotate by itself, pay attention not to injure fingers or other bodily part. Especially be careful with the right bank.
3 In case the right bank camshaft sprocket rotates excessively, be cautious not to rotate more than the initial stable position. Always align timing mark of rotating sprocket by turning it reversely. In this case, pay attention not to rotate It reversely from the initial position. (If, with one sprocket fixed at No.1 compression TDC position, the other sprocket is rotated one revolution clockwise or counterclockwise, then the intake and exhaust valve might interfere each other.)
After installing the timing belt, exert the reverse directed force to the right bank exhaust camshaft sprocket to give tension on the belt. Holding this state, recheck it each timing mark is correctly positioned.

With tensioner pulley slightly pushing the belt down, tighten the center bolt slightly.
Pull out the auto tensioner set pin

Check out the diagrams (below). Please let us know if you need anything else to get the problem fixed.
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Thursday, October 24th, 2019 AT 1:21 PM (Merged)
Tiny
REY DOGOMEO
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Please help me regarding timing belt with positioning of camshaft. Kia Sedona carnival 2002 model diesel engine. Pls help me, for timing the camshaft
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Thursday, October 24th, 2019 AT 1:21 PM (Merged)
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KEN L
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Please post your new question here, you must be logged in.

https://www.2carpros.com/questions/new

Cheers, Ken
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Thursday, October 24th, 2019 AT 1:21 PM (Merged)
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KENNETH SUMMERS
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Got a ping on the engine need to know were the timing marks are please
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Thursday, October 24th, 2019 AT 1:21 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Might want to check the EGR valve if its opening and also the knock sensor might not be retarding the ignition timing when pinging is occurring-
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Thursday, October 24th, 2019 AT 1:21 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Timing is computer controlled so you would not be able to adjust it even if you have it.
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Thursday, October 24th, 2019 AT 1:21 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Dual camshaft timing marks
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Thursday, October 24th, 2019 AT 1:21 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hi, I am doing an overhaul, but I don't have any to start the assembly, thanks for the the complete timing marks and crankshaft position.

Regards
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