Engine noise?

Tiny
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Just purchased used from Carmax. We do not have a garage so the car is exposed to outdoor elements. We have had alot of rain. Since then when I start the car the engine sounds as if I have a bird chirping away in it. Do you have any suggestions of what this could be? Also, just read on-line of transmission problems in the 2002 Explorer. I am officially afraid I have made a poor used car purchase and instead of taking it back for service I should just give it back to them. Any comments? However, researching used vehichles on-line can't seem to find one that hasn't had transmission problems! !? Help - mother needing reliable vehicle on a budget !
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Saturday, May 30th, 2020 AT 11:34 AM (Merged)
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Try this step.
Spray a little D40 to the tension arm, the one that adjusts the belt. If the problem went away, you need to replace that tension arm. If it still has the same problem, you have something wrong with the engine. I don't think the transmission has the problem.
I remember my car had a loud chirp when it was 45k. I noticed the chirp was from the tension.
Tony
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Last week, my 5.0 Explorer began making a screeching noise. I noticed that it only occurred between 2800-3200rpms. It doesn't matter if I'm on the road or sitting still, in drive, in park, in neutral, etc. If I stay above or below that RPM range, no screeching sound can be heard. The sound can clearly be heard in the video at the bottom of this post.

*NOTE* - The sound is still present with the serpentine belt removed, so it is not accessory related.

http://s121.photobucket.com/albums/o210/jlatha86/?action=view¤t=MOV00734.flv
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Saturday, May 30th, 2020 AT 11:34 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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After taking a closer look under the engine bay while the engine was running, I decided the noise was coming from the front side of the engine and it sounded like it was under the intake or possibly behind the timing cover. I don't have an automotive stethoscope, but from my younger days, I can remember my grandfather troubleshooting with a stick. I found a suitable "tool" and began listening and feeling different areas of the engine. When I touched the top of the camshaft sensor, I could immediately feel the vibration much stronger than anywhere else. When the screech occurred, I would compare the feeling to that of hitting a solid object with an aluminum baseball bat. It made sharp vibration. With that being said, I believe the culprit is the camshaft synchronizer (aka crankshaft angle sensor depending on where you buy the part). After doing a lot of online research, I've determined that Dorman products should be avoided at all costs due to inferior build quality. A1 Cardone seems to make acceptable remanufactured units, but I decided to go with a genuine Motorcraft part. It will probably take a couple of hours to swap because the spark plugs need to be pulled to ensure the #1 piston is at TDC on the compression stroke. If any of you have changed plugs on a 5.0 Explorer, you already know how time consuming that job can be by itself. If anyone finds this thread in the future and you're not mechanically inclined, this is definitely a job for a mechanic. Proper installation of this part is vital to both the firing order and your oil supply.
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Saturday, May 30th, 2020 AT 11:34 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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I just wanted to followup. I replaced my camshaft synchronizer last Wednesday, December 9th, and everything has been functioning flawlessly. Here's a short video of the sound the synchronizer was making once it was out of the vehicle. As you can hear, it is quite harsh. I've found a few videos on YouTube of other bad synchronizers, but they sounded much more birdlike.
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Loud metal on metal noise for a few seconds after starting.
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Hi:
Is the sound from the engine itself or could it be from a belt driven component?
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Saturday, May 30th, 2020 AT 11:34 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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No, the noise is definetly comming from the engine. Sounds like the lifters or push rods running with no oil. But the noise goes away after a few seconds as if oil has reached the source of the noise.
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Saturday, May 30th, 2020 AT 11:34 AM (Merged)
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Hi:
What weight oil do you have in the vehicle and what temps do you live in? Also, what brand of oil filter do you have? Some have an anti flow back valve that doesn't allow oil to drain out of the filter. If you have one that doesn't have the valve, it could starve the engine for a few seconds.

When the engine is running, does it keep good oil pressure?

Joe
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Saturday, May 30th, 2020 AT 11:34 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hi
I use 5w30 and a Fram oil filter. As far as temp, its funny you ask because it only happens when its cold outside (40 or so and under). I live in Co.
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Saturday, May 30th, 2020 AT 11:34 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Well, the 5w30 is what you should be using, and a fram filter should be fine. The cold weather does have an affect on the oil. The colder it gets, the heavier the oil is at start-up. However, at 40 degrees, 5w30 shouldn't lead to the described problem. For the heck of it, try a motorcraft filter next time.

Keep an eye on the oil pressure to make sure it doesn't get too low. Your oil pump may be starting to develope a problem, but it's too early to tell.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

Joe
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Saturday, May 30th, 2020 AT 11:34 AM (Merged)
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OK, thank you very much Joe. You have been very helpfull!

Rod
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