Codes PO203 and 303

Tiny
DARREN CHUN
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  • 2004 KIA SEDONA
  • 3.5L
  • 6 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 90,000 MILES
All my injectors show 6 volts but one shows 12 volts and that's the one with the problem.
Thursday, February 21st, 2019 AT 5:58 PM

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Tiny
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Welcome to 2CarPros.

The codes you listed, P0202 and P0303 are separate. The 202 is a cylinder two injector issue and 303 is a misfire (cylinder three). Now, what I suggest is this. I am going to attach a flow chart for testing the injector. You can follow that to identify the cause of the code. However, what I suggest is this. Switch the cylinder two and three injectors with two other cylinders. Once you do that, clear the codes and run the vehicle to see if the trouble codes change to different cylinders. It they do, then replace the injectors.

If you look at pictures 1 and 2, they are a flow chart of what to check.

Also, here are a few links that may be helpful:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-test-a-fuel-injector

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-replace-a-fuel-injector

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-a-test-light-circuit-tester

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-a-voltmeter

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-wiring

Let me know what you find or if you have other questions.

Take care,
Joe
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Thursday, February 21st, 2019 AT 7:40 PM
Tiny
DARREN CHUN
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You got it wrong I said p o 203 and 303.
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Thursday, February 21st, 2019 AT 7:55 PM
Tiny
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You are exactly right! Sorry about that. However, I would still try switching the injector. In this case, the injector P0203 is most likely causing the P0303. It could just be a bad injector. If the code changes to a different cylinder when you make the change, then we know it's the injector.

Or, you could test the injector for resistance to see if it is good. Here is the resistance it should have:

Output Actuator Injector
Coil resistance. 13 - 16 Ohm at 20°C (68°F)
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Thursday, February 21st, 2019 AT 8:57 PM
Tiny
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I did switch the injectors one and three.
And the same code came out again I also changed plugs. And coil but what wonders me is this I get 6 volts at every injector except for the bad one number three I get 12 volts. Why?
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Thursday, February 21st, 2019 AT 9:57 PM
Tiny
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The only thing I can say is it must be related to the ECM. It is what supplies the power to each injector. See attached schematic.
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Friday, February 22nd, 2019 AT 10:12 PM
Tiny
DARREN CHUN
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What can I check or do to the ECM or do I have to get another one to get rid of the check engine light? Can I drive it with it on?
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Friday, February 22nd, 2019 AT 10:48 PM
Tiny
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You can drive it, but it will have a misfire. If it is dumping fuel, it can cause damage to the catalytic converter. As far as the ECM, something must have shorted out internally and allowing 12 v to get sent to that injector.
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Friday, February 22nd, 2019 AT 11:32 PM
Tiny
DARREN CHUN
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I was told if I do get one ECM I would have to reprogram the ECM to my car. If that is true can you tell me what and where I would have to do to get this done? Could you explain? Also I'd like to thank you for your time.
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Saturday, February 23rd, 2019 AT 4:24 AM
Tiny
DARREN CHUN
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Also, can I get more diagrams on the injector so I can trace it so I can find the problem? Thank you
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Saturday, February 23rd, 2019 AT 4:29 AM
Tiny
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Hi:
I attached the wiring schematic for the injectors, control module, and power supplies. I had to break the schematic into two parts because of size. I did overlap them so you can continue following them.

If you look at pictures 3 and 4, that shows the ECM pin layout. Picture 4 shows which pins are responsible for the injectors. I would check those pins at the ECM to confirm the variation on voltage. If you find it at the ECM, something inside if has shorted.

If it needs reprogrammed, I recommend a dealer to do it.

Let me know if this helps.

Joe
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Saturday, February 23rd, 2019 AT 4:48 PM

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