Faulty catalytic converter

Tiny
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  • 2001 INFINITI I30
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I have an large vacum leak an rich af ratio fuel system an ignition system malfunction an faulty catalytic converter an I was woundering what the noise on my car when I cut the air on are when I cut the ac on an when im driving the gas be jerking
Wednesday, June 19th, 2013 AT 11:20 AM

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Tiny
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If the noise when you turn the A/C on is a loud squealing sound, then it's likely a loose belt, or faulty belt tensioner [or combination of the two].

Car is likely jerking because of the ignition system malfunction and other problems you mentioned.

Have your computer codes read and post them here so that we can start diagnosing the large vacuum leak, ign system problems and catalytic converter problems. (The ignition system problem can cause the computer to register a catalytic converter fault.)

Check for any loose vacuum hoses underhood and near the gas tank under the vehcile at the charcoal canister near the gas tank. Make sure that the gas cap is on properly as well.

Post the codes that you get here and we'll be glad to help you complete your diagnosis. (Some auto parts stores will read the code for you absolutely FREE. DO NOT purchase any parts until you've posted the codes here and we've had time to advise further).

Thanks.
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Wednesday, June 19th, 2013 AT 12:10 PM
Tiny
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  • 1998 INFINITI I30
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I have noticed noise that occurs at 70 mph and gets worse the faster I go. It seems to be in the engine. Runs great when stationary. Doesn't smoke and gets great gas mileage. The noise sounds like something rattling or bouncing around in the engine. I took it to a dealer and they couldn't hear it. When I picked it up I couldn't hear then either but now I hear it again. I am wondering if cold weather makes a difference.I, e I tend to hear it more when it is cold. I have noticed soot above the catalytic convertor area going all the way across engine where the dipstick is at (crankcase?). Do you think this is the CC going out? Should it go out on a 10 year old infiniti? What should I have checked to see if that is the problem and what else should I have check to see what may have caused it to go out?
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Friday, January 10th, 2020 AT 12:12 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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[quote="skott"]Noises problem
1998 Infiniti I30 6 cyl Front Wheel Drive Automatic 105000 miles

I uploaded a picture but I don't see it. Can the mechanic see it?
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Friday, January 10th, 2020 AT 12:12 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Catalytic Converter could be leaking

The catalytic converter is our main line of defense against air pollution, so it's important to make sure it is functioning efficiently and passing exhaust without creating undue restrictions that might reduce performance, fuel economy or emissions. That's one of the reasons for periodic vehicle emissions testing. If the converter isn't working, you won't pass the test.

If the your converter is plugged, it will create a restriction in your exhaust system. The buildup of backpressure will cause a drastic drop in engine performance and fuel economy, and may even cause the engine to stall after it starts if the blockage is severe.

The easiest test for converter plugging is done with a vacuum gauge. Connect the gauge to a source of intake vacuum on the intake manifold, carburetor or throttle body. Note the reading at idle, then raise and hold engine speed at 2,500. The needle will drop when you first open the throttle, but should then rise and stabilize. If the vacuum reading starts to drop, pressure may be backing up in the exhaust system.

You can also try to measure backpressure directly. If your engine has air injection, disconnect the check valve from the distribution manifold, and connect a low pressure gauge. Or, remove the oxygen sensor and take your reading at its hole in the manifold or headpipe. Refer to the backpressure specs for the application. Generally speaking, more than 1.25 psi of backpressure at idle, or more than 3 psi at 2,000 rpm tells you there's an exhaust restriction.

If there appears to be an exhaust restriction, disconnect the exhaust pipe just aft of the converter to relieve pressure and recheck the readings. CAUTION: The pipes will be hot so wait awhile for things to cool down. If vacuum goes up and/or backpressure drops, the problem isn't not a plugged converter but a plugged muffler or collapsed pipe. If there's little or no change in readings, the converter is plugged.

Just because a converter is passing gas doesn't mean it is okay. If the catalyst inside is contaminated or worn out, high carbon monoxide (CO) and/or hydrocarbon (HC) readings will be present in the exhaust. If you have access to a high temperature digital pyrometer (or an oven thermometer will do), check the converter's temperature fore and aft. A good converter will usually run 100 degrees F hotter at its outlet than its inlet. Little or no temperature change would indicate low efficiency, or a problem with the converter's air supply. Converters need supplemental oxygen in the exhaust to reburn pollutants, so if the air injection system or aspirator valve isn't doing its job the converter can't do its job either.

Check the air injection pump, belt and check valve. If you suspect that the check valve is allowing exhaust to flow backwards, remove it and blow through both ends. It should let air pass in one direction, but not in the other. Examine the air injection manifold, too, because it tends to rust out and leak air. Check the diverter valve to make sure it is working correctly, too. It should be routing air to the converter when the engine is at normal temperature.

On engines with aspirator valves instead of air pumps, you should hear and/or feel the fluttering of the internal flapper as the engine is idling.

Causes Of Converter Failures

Fouling, clogging, melt-down and breakage of the ceramic substrate inside a converter are common conditions that can cause problems. Plugging is usually the end result of a melt-down, which occurs because the converter gets too hot. This happens because the engine is dumping unburned fuel into the exhaust. The excess fuel lights off inside the converter and sends temperatures soaring. If it gets hot enough, the ceramic substrate that carries the catalyst melts.

The unburned fuel may be getting into the exhaust because of a bad spark plug or valve, but an overly rich air/fuel mixture is another possibility. In older carbureted engines, a heavy or misadjusted carburetor float may be the underlying cause. But on newer engines with "feedback" carburetion or electronic fuel injection, the engine may not be going into "closed loop" (the normal mode where the computer regulates the air/fuel mixture to minimize emissions).

A bad oxygen sensor or coolant sensor may be giving the computer bogus information. A sluggish or dead O2 sensor will make the computer think the exhaust is running lean, so the computer will try to compensate by making the fuel mixture rich. A coolant sensor that always indicates a cold engine will also keep the system in open loop, which means a steady diet of excess fuel. But it might not be the sensor's fault. A thermostat that's stuck open or is too cold for the application can prevent the engine from reaching its normal operating temperature. So if your converter has failed and needs to be replaced, the engine should be diagnosed for any underlying problems before the new converter is installed.

Another cause of converter clogging and contamination is excessive oil consumption. Worn valve guides or seals can allow oil to be sucked into the engine's combustion chambers. The same goes for worn or damaged rings or cylinders. Oil can form a great deal of carbon, and metals present in the oil can contaminate the catalyst. A compression check or leak-down test will tell you if the rings are leaking, while a fluttering vacuum gauge needle will help you identify worn valve guides.
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Friday, January 10th, 2020 AT 12:12 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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The reply to my question(with a Donation) by the certified mechanic seems like a standard reply. You don't address at all whether the symptoms I described indicate that the catalytic convertor is the problem. I'm dissapointed
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Friday, January 10th, 2020 AT 12:12 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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A problem with the catalytic converter will indicate an engine lacking power, overheating and no start to include excessive hydrocarbons and carbonmonoxides

I have noticed noise that occurs at 70 mph and gets worse the faster I go. It seems to be in the engine. Runs great when stationary. This problem can be coming from any part of the engine/body of the vehicle which is very difficult to pinpoint

I have noticed soot above the catalytic converter area going all the way across engine where the dipstick is at (crankcase?). This one could be an engine leak dripping on top of the CC.

Please be advice I've given you the best answer I could give if you're dissatisfied request for refund or await for another expert to assist.
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Friday, January 10th, 2020 AT 12:12 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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I have a code of P0430, bank 2. I was trying to figure out exactly which catalytic converter this is and what it looks like so I don't purchase the wrong one.
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Friday, January 10th, 2020 AT 12:13 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Bank 2 which is the front but I believe when you buy the parts they come as 1 unit. Use dealer parts only

Roy
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