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I APPRECIATE THE WAY YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS---USUALLY I HAVE TO DRAG THEM OUT OF PEOPLE AFTER MANY RESPONSES I MIGHT GET THE INFO I WANT!
DO YOU KNOW HOW TO FIND YOUR ACTUAL MPGs STARTING OUT WITH A SLAP FULL TANK OF FUEL---WRITING DOWN THE ODOMETER READING
-DRIVE IT DOWN TO, LET'S SAY, A 1/2 OR A 1/4 TANK?
REFILL TO "SLAP FULL" AGAIN
WRITE DOWN THE ODOMETER READING----AND THE EXACT GALLONS IT TOOK TO REFILL IT
THEN DO THE MATH
...........SORRY SOME PEOPLE OF THE NEW GENERATION THINK IT ONLY CAN BE FOUND BY LOOKING AT THE DIGITAL STUFF WHERE IT TELLS YOU MPG AND HOW FAR BEFORE YOU RUN OUT ON THEIR "CYBER CAR"!
I'M REALLY UP ON CJs--AS I HAVE OWNED 5 PREVIOUS CJ 5s--AND PRESENTLY OWN A '77 CJ 5 AND A '46 WILLYSNEVER ANYTHING ELSE SINCE 1981, WHEN I STARTED DRIVING ON ASPHALT
MAYBE NOT RELEVANT TO YOUR SITUATION----NONE OF THE CJs EVER RUN EXACT. I UNDERSTAND HOW TO BEND THE FLOAT ARMS AND DO SOME PRECISE MEASURING--CHECKING OHMS.....ALL BEFORE INSTALLING A CJ FUEL TANK SENDING UNIT......IT'S STILL NOT DEAD ON
CJs COME WITH A 15 GALLON STOCK TANK---I'VE UPGRADED TO A 21 GALLON POLYETHYLENE---THE CORRECT SENDER OUT OF THE BOX WAS OFF---TWEAKING MADE IT BETTER---BUT STILL I CAN DRIVE RIGHT AT 100 MILES WITH A "SLAP FULL" TANK (ACCORDING TO MY GAUGE) BEFORE THE NEEDLE MOVES DOWN AT ALL. .....STRAIGHT OUT OF THE BOX, IT WOULD SHOW "EMPTY" WHEN I HAD 4 GALLONS LEFT?????
IT ALL IS GEOMETRY, AS WHERE THEY "CROOK" THE FLOAT ARM---THE LENGTHS BETWEEN THE "CROOKS"---AND THE RELATION OF THE RHEOSTAT TO THE ARM POSITIONSYOU CAN ONLY TWEAK SO MUCH
NOW "WILLY", MY '46 WILLYS, ON THE OTHER HAND, HAS A 10 GALLON TANK. I BOUGHT AN AFTERMARKET SENDER FOR HIM
IT IS EXTREMELY ACCURATE--THE SENDER WAS DESIGNED FOR TANKS 6-24 INCHES DEEP. WILLY'S TANK IS ABOUT 6 INCHES DEEP AND UNDER MY SEAT. THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE SENDER SHOWED HOW FAR TO THE PIVOT (BASICALLY 3 INCHES---1/2 THE DEPTH OF THE TANK). THE OTHER CRITICAL PART WAS HOW FAR OUT DID THE FLOAT GO FROM THE PIVOT----SO WITH MINE, THE FLOAT ARM GETS CUT OFF A SPECIFIC LENGTH, AS PER THE INSTRUCTIONS
SO THE FLOAT ALL THE WAY DOWN IS "EMPTY"TOUCHING THE INSIDE TOP OF THE TANK IS "FULL".............REALLY ACCURATE, AS THEY HAVE ALL THE MEASUREMENTS PERFECT FOR WHATEVER DEPTH YOU NEED! THE COMPONENTS HAVE "SET SCREWS" AND NO BENDING IS INVOLVED.
THE ONLY DRAWBACK IS.......THE FUEL GAUGE IS SO SENSITIVE....BOUNCING DOWN THE ROAD.....IT "FOLLOWS" THE SLOSHING FUEL.......THE GAUGE HAS AN IMMEDIATE REACTION AND THE NEEDLE IS IN CONSTANT MOTION---EVEN ON A SMOOTH ROAD IT'S BARELY MOVING UP AND DOWN
THIS WAS THE SOLE REASON I DID NOT PUT ONE LIKE IT IN MY CJ 5s 21 GALLON TANKI'M USED TO IT NOW, SO IT'S LIKE A "FREE 100 MILES TO ME, EVEN THOUGH IT AIN'T!
BEING THAT I HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED YOUR FLOAT SITUATION 1ST HAND----I HAVE DONE A LITTLE RESEARCH ON IT FOR YOU.......MAYBE NOT ENOUGH YET!
I SUSPECT YOUR FUEL MILEAGE IS A CONSTANT VALUE---WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE GAUGE
I ALSO SUSPECT SOME OF THE FOLLOWING
THE SENDER COULD BE BAD
SOMEONE ELSE INSTALLED IT WRONG........I'LL EXPLAIN IN A BIT
SOMEONE TRIED TO TWEAK IT, WHO WAS SORTA LOST
IT GOT BENT DURING INSTALLATION
I LOOKED UP THE FUEL PUMP AND SENDER----THIS IS IT BELOW, IN THIS LINK
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_fuel-pump-module-assembly-airtex_18770712-p?searchTerm=fuel+pump+module+assembly
THE "CROOK" IN IT----BASICALLY "WHERE THE CROOK IS" OR THE ANGLE IT IS BENT AT---WILL ULTIMATELY AFFECT.........WHERE IT "THINKS" FULL AND EMPTY ARE AT........IT MAY ALSO EXPONENTIALLY FALL FASTER IN THE BEGINNING---AND SLOWER TOWARDS THE END
EVEN A SATURATED FLOAT BALL--1/2 CRUMBLED AWAY BALL---TWISTED AND STANDING ON END---MIGHT FACTOR IN
DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE?
ACTUAL FUEL USAGE WOULD BE CONSTANT AND THE SAME, THE WHOLE TIME, THE GAUGE JUST FOOLS YOUTHAT'S WHY I SUGGEST YOU DO SOME NORMAL DRIVING AND CHECK YOUR MPGs AT A FEW DIFFERENT FUEL LEVELS
WANNA SEE THE FACTORY MANUAL? I SORTA SKIMMED OVER THE FUEL PUMP/ SENDER/ AND TANK PARTI SEE NO ADJUSTMENTS (TWEAKING WOULD BE AT YOUR OWN ACCORD)
I WILL EXPLAIN HOW I DO IT WITH THE UNIT OUTSIDE THE TANK...IF YOU WANT ME TO
THEN WE GOT THE..................MAYBE THE GOODIES INSIDE THE GAUGE ARE MESSED UP?????
THIS MAY BE EZier TO CHECK
BELOW---WHEN I LOOK UP MY CJ 5THE MANUAL GIVES THE TESTING PROCEDURES AND THE OHM READINGS THAT SHOULD BE PRESENT---THUS LETTING YOU KNOW WHICH END OF THE JEEP IS FAULTY (I DID NOT LOOK YOURS UP--SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY SHOW IT)
HERE'S THE FACTORY MANUAL---YOU HAVE A '99 "TJ"----INSTALL YOUR INFO---THEN "FUEL SYSTEM"
MAYBE NOT THE LEAST EXPENSIVE---I MAY CAN HELP IN THE "GET STUFF CHEAPER DEPARTMENT" ALSO...IF YOU LIKE
BUT I DID FIND THAT THE SENDER---IS AVAILABLE BY ITSELF, NOT AS PART OF THE PUMP ASSEMBLY......AND MAYBE CHEAPER SOMEWHERE ELSEI WILL GIVE MORRIS CREDIT WHEN I CAN, THE "FREE MANUALS" ARE GREAT, SO FAR THEY ARE THE ONLY ONE OFFERING THEM........I HAVE THE REAL--PAPER VERSION FOR THE '79 CJ 5
http://www.jeep4x4center.com/level-unit-package-4897757ac.html
SORRY....I GET ALL CARRIED AWAY AND STUFF, WHEN IT COMES TO "REAL JEEPS"
YOUR TURN
THE MEDIC
AMONG MY PICS---MY DAUGHTER LIKES SHOWING OUT, CRANKING WILLY WITH THE HAND CRANK INSTEAD OF THE STARTER.......SHE WAS 10 YEARS OLD THEN, AND CAPABLE OF DRIVING HIM IN ANY MODE
WILLY LOOKS LIKE A TOY IN THE GRASS IN MY "DEER STAND GLAMOUR SHOT"
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Wednesday, January 16th, 2013 AT 4:30 AM