My engine won't start up?

Tiny
TTINNMANN
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  • 1999 ISUZU TROOPER
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The car is in the park and the weather is very cold, it cranks but it wont run?
Thursday, February 19th, 2015 AT 8:07 AM

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Tiny
TY ANDERSON
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This sounds like a fuel pump or the crankshaft angle sensor has gone out. When you turn the key to the on position without cranking the engine over can you hear the fuel pump run in the tank for 5 seconds?

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-cranks-but-wont-start

Please run down this guide and report back.
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Thursday, February 19th, 2015 AT 6:23 PM
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TTINNMANN
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The guide helped me find a bad fuel pump I got it running thank you.
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Saturday, February 21st, 2015 AT 11:14 AM
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JAZZ2002
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We have put a second hand gear box in our isuzu trooper went to start it and it just turns over. It will start if sprayed with quick start spray but then cuts out again, any ideas
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Thursday, January 21st, 2021 AT 11:15 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Check that you have fuel pressure, is the pump turning on with the ignition, you do have spark as it will run with the starter fluid, so i would be suspecting a fuel pump problem, be it a pump or power supply. Check out this guide

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-fuel-system-pressure-and-regulator

mark (mhpautos)
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Thursday, January 21st, 2021 AT 11:15 AM (Merged)
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JAZZ2002
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Hi thankyou for reply would you no where to look for fuel pump as it was running perfectly before.
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Thursday, January 21st, 2021 AT 11:15 AM (Merged)
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MHPAUTOS
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It is in the fuel tank, just undo a fuel line at the filter place the pipe in a container and turn on the ignition, do you get fuel? The pump should run for a sec or two then shut off.

Mark (mhpautos)
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Thursday, January 21st, 2021 AT 11:15 AM (Merged)
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RANDY WALLIS
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I drove it home the other night and then the next morning it would turn over, but didn't even "try" to start. I have spark to the plugs and I can hear the fuel pump working, but it acts like it isn't getting any fuel to the cylinders. Actually I determined that the fuel pump wasn't working so I replaced it and when the tank was down I checked at the pump and determined that I didn't have any voltage. I had already checked the fuse and relay so I thought that maybe the oil pressure switch might be cutting out the current to the fuel pump. I jumped the voltage and the pump worked, but still didn't start. I removed the jumper wire and reinserted the fuse and cranked the car to get the oil pressure up and the fuel pump works. Is there perhaps a fuel injector relay and or fuse? Maybe something to do with the emissions sensors? Was running fine before all of this. PS I haven't changed the timing belt and don't think the previous owner did either. I bought the car with 105,000 miles 2 years ago.
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Thursday, January 21st, 2021 AT 11:17 AM (Merged)
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T belt should be replaced at60K. Does engine seem to turn over a little faster? If yes check to see if T belt is turning. Try spraying some carb cleaner into throttle body see if it fires.
Let me know
Thanks for donate
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Thursday, January 21st, 2021 AT 11:17 AM (Merged)
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RANDY WALLIS
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It does seem to be turning over pretty fast, but I figured it was because there was no fuel to ignite. Is it maybe a lack of compression, hence the timing belt?

I tried the starting fluid in the intake and it didn't do anything. I will check the timing belt. Can I just try to look behind the plastic housing while someone cranks the engine?

Does this vehicle have any engine start lockouts like low fluids or perhaps something to do with the factory installed alarm system? Would a bad sensor or emission issue prevent it from even trying to start?

Thanks, Randy
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Thursday, January 21st, 2021 AT 11:17 AM (Merged)
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Pretty sure you will find T belt to be problem
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Thursday, January 21st, 2021 AT 11:17 AM (Merged)
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RANDY WALLIS
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Hey Bob, Ken and the crew, you were right on. I got the covers off and sure enough I should have changed that timing belt some miles ago. Several teeth are missing and the belt doesn't move at all. Neither cam shaft turned, but the crank did and so the pistons surely were moving as well.

My question now is how can I tell if there might be valve damage. I had tried to start the car several times, but of course it didn't even try to start so only the starter turned the engine over. It was running just fine the night before when I shut it off, it didn't die or anything so the RPMs were minimal what ever the starter turns over at.

Do you think I should just replace the belt and water pump and hope that the valves are okay. I'm guessing that short of removing the heads there is no other way to to know? Maybe the clearance is such that the piston doesn't go up high enough to touch the valves anyway? Also does this vehicle have intake valves since it is fuel injected or just exhaust valves?

Thanks for you help,
Randy
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Thursday, January 21st, 2021 AT 11:17 AM (Merged)
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Hi
Engine is NOT an interference so valve damage should not have occured. Yes engine has intake and exhaust valves and water pump replacement is good to do at this time. Sending Timing marks


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/198357_Grafic_3_118.jpg


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/198357_Grafic_4_29.jpg


Will you be repairing yourself?
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Thursday, January 21st, 2021 AT 11:17 AM (Merged)
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RANDY WALLIS
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I have the 3.2L SOHC and the timing marks are basically diametrically opposed. This diagram looks like the DOHC. And the information I have seems to indicate that it is an interference engine.

I think my best bet at this time is to reassemble with the new timing belt and see what happens. I have replaced the water pump and am doing the work myself. I will replace the timing belt and "give it a whirl"

The belt I have has hash marks for the cams and it has a dotted hash mark that appears to be for the crankshaft, but in order to align the dots with the crank I have to reverse the belt and the writing is backwards, (right to left instead of left to right) The cams seem to line up with the marks either way.

Does it matter which way the belt is facing as long as everything is lined up correctly? Or is the belt direction oriented for some reason?

Thanks again for all your help, you've been great. I recommend this site to my friends and you can bet I will consult you before "changing unnecessary parts."
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Thursday, January 21st, 2021 AT 11:17 AM (Merged)
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DOCFIXIT
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Marks for SOHC


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/198357_Graphic_437.jpg


Use pinch clip to hold belt


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/198357_Grafic_4_30.jpg


Adjust tensioner to this measurment


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/198357_Grafic_3_121.jpg


All my info says non interference
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Thursday, January 21st, 2021 AT 11:17 AM (Merged)
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THEBOYS_DAD
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My trooper was running ok. Went in to store and came out would not start. Then it would start run (runs smooth) for a few minutes then die. I. Had the ignition module tested they said it was good. I put a crank sensor. It stared and run for an hour let sit and restarted ok. Let car sit over night car restarted. Let car sit for 3 hours car would crank and will not star. When it does start it runs smooth. The coils and module are new(6months old) replace for a miss fire. Car has ran great until now. Could it be a faulty module?
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Thursday, January 21st, 2021 AT 11:17 AM (Merged)
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It could be the ignition module, however, have you checked for spark to the plugs when it doesn't start?
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Thursday, January 21st, 2021 AT 11:17 AM (Merged)
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Yes I have check for spark. No spark when it is not starting.
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Thursday, January 21st, 2021 AT 11:17 AM (Merged)
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JACOBANDNICKOLAS
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I suspect the module is going bad.
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Thursday, January 21st, 2021 AT 11:17 AM (Merged)
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KATSANDY
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Started early morning, ran 3-4 minutes, died, now will not start, just cranks.
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Thursday, January 21st, 2021 AT 11:20 AM (Merged)
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KEN L
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Hey KATSANDY,

Do below to determine if it's fuel or spark problem:

Cranks and w/n start

Here is a guide that will help you fix the problem.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-cranks-but-wont-start

Please run some tests and get back to us so we can continue helping you.

Best, Ken

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