Engine keeps overheating?

Tiny
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I have a 98 passport that keeps overheating. I have replaced the thermostat, radiator, and fan clutch. It doesn't run hot when idling but soon as I start driving it starts overheating. I don't have water in my oil and there's no white smoke so I don't think the head gasket is blown.

I have tried everything I can think of. Can the water pump be bad without the bearings being gone or leaking?
Saturday, February 25th, 2012 AT 12:45 AM

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Tiny
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The impeller can break off the water pump's shaft but that's more common on Volkswagens with plastic impellers. Are you seeing bubbles in the reservoir? If that's why you think it's overheating, that is due to a leaking head gasket. The clue is bubbles from boiling coolant will have steam associated with it. Bubbles from a leaking head gasket often don't produce much steam, especially when the engine is cold.
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Saturday, February 25th, 2012 AT 12:53 AM
Tiny
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It does run hot. But I can let it sit and idle for 30 minutes or even hold it at 2500 rpm for a couple minutes and everything is fine but soon as I make it around the block it starts running hot. But no bubbles in the reservoir until it runs hot
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Saturday, February 25th, 2012 AT 1:28 AM
Tiny
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And also I just bought the car and drove it 45 minutes on the interstate to my house and it did fine on the interstate but when its going through town it overheats
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Saturday, February 25th, 2012 AT 1:31 AM
Tiny
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The multiple observations are conflicting but I have heard of similar situations caused by an inoperative electric radiator fan. Natural air flow at higher speeds cools the radiator without needing the fan. When standing still and not producing much power, many newer radiators are so efficient they dissipate enough heat to the surrounding air without needing the fan, but the added power needed for driving at slow speeds generates more heat. That's when the fan is needed. Check that first to see if it turns on.
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Saturday, February 25th, 2012 AT 3:58 AM
Tiny
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Are you talking about the fan thats in front of the condensor? Thats the only electric fan on this model. Guess I will get a pressure tester from autozone that hooks to the radiator and see if its holding pressure. If it is losing pressure does that mean a head gasket? That is my last question I promise. Thanks for the advice
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Saturday, February 25th, 2012 AT 4:49 AM
Tiny
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The pressure cap only raises the boiling point of the water in the coolant. It's common for cooling systems to hit more than 220 degrees. A 15 pound cap increases the boiling point by 45 degrees.

Is there a belt-driven fan? If the condenser is off to the side of the radiator, the should be two fans. If the condenser is in front of the radiator, there will be only one fan. Check if that fan is turning on.
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Saturday, February 25th, 2012 AT 6:36 AM
Tiny
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Ensure the clutch fan blades has not been installed reversely, which would affect the air being pulled by the fans and also the fan shroud is in good condition.
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Saturday, February 25th, 2012 AT 12:09 PM
Tiny
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Another day spent working on this thing and this is what I came up with. When it starts to run hot the heater barely works then all of a sudden the heater starts working good and the temp goes back to normal. Got a mechanic coming tomorrow. But do you have any idea what could cause this? And I also checked the pressure and no leaks. So.
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Sunday, February 26th, 2012 AT 12:26 AM
Tiny
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Based on the heater observation, it sounds like the coolant is stopping circulating intermittently. That could be due to a loose impeller on the water pump, but that's rare, a slipping water pump belt including those that are driven by the back side of the timing belt, and an air pocket by the thermostat.

Thermostats will not open in the presence of hot air. They must be hit with hot liquid. If a head gasket is leaking and allowing combustion gases to get into the cooling system, an air pocket could form by the thermostat and cause it to close. Hot coolant won't circulate to the radiator or to the heater core.

Your mechanic can test for a head gasket leak with a glass cylinder with two chambers partially filled with a special dark blue liquid. He draws air from the radiator while the car is running. If combustion gases are present, the liquid will turn bright yellow.
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Sunday, February 26th, 2012 AT 12:57 AM

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