Fuel relay inop

Tiny
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OK I've tested the relay and its good it has a new pump/filter/and regulator. I started diag on it and can't seem to get anywhere. I have power coming to the relay from main relay but the relay is not switching any ideas where to test or check I've also tested the inertia switch in rear and tested for continuity between all wiring on the fuel pump circuit no opens or shorts. Any ideas to make my life a bit easier
Thursday, August 2nd, 2012 AT 3:02 AM

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Tiny
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There should be 12 volts to the interia switch for 2 seconds with the key on. Test for this.

If not, then you have a control issue.

If you do, you may have a connection issue at the pump or a bad pump.

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Thursday, August 2nd, 2012 AT 10:04 AM
Tiny
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I will pay I just wanted to see how this service was before I started paying for answers
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Thursday, August 2nd, 2012 AT 7:26 PM
Tiny
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The pump is new. The pump relay has power to the coil side and power to the switch side the relay is just not switching. So there wouldn't be power at the inertia cause the relay is not connecting Tue circuit right? I think its a control issue where do I look for that or have any ideas?
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Thursday, August 2nd, 2012 AT 7:35 PM
Tiny
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The pcm grounds the relay to energize the pump for 2 seconds with the key on. Then when it cranks, it will turn it on full

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Thursday, August 2nd, 2012 AT 9:12 PM
Tiny
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So what would be the way to test that on my dvom? And if the controlling side is bad then the pcm would be the deliqeuint?
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Thursday, August 2nd, 2012 AT 9:51 PM
Tiny
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You need to probe the correct wire to see if the pacm grounds it. If it does not, make sure you check the crank sensor as this signal is used by the pcm for rpm signal

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Friday, August 3rd, 2012 AT 12:13 AM
Tiny
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OK I will check . I can get the car to run if I manually engage The relay but if u touch the throttle past idle it stalls out. Do you know what wire I would check for that ground? There's only one wire that comes from the fuel relay to the pcm or do I have test it elsewhere?
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Friday, August 3rd, 2012 AT 12:17 AM
Tiny
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You need to do a continuity test from the pump relay to the pcm to verfiy the wire.

Do you own a shop?

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Friday, August 3rd, 2012 AT 12:19 AM
Tiny
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OK so test the continuity from the relay out to pcm in correct? There right next to each other so its very simple to test that wire. If the crank sensor was inop the. The car wouldn't run right cause that controls spark as well right. I have a shop but I build race cars not rally into repair work I am ase certified the problem is I do t have Mitchell or alldata that would make life a mill easier. I do appreciate all ur help I will be donating for the service I'm just at a loss here without alldata
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Friday, August 3rd, 2012 AT 12:25 AM
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I understand. Do you have a scan tool?

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Friday, August 3rd, 2012 AT 12:57 AM
Tiny
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Yes but only obd2 I jumped the ten prong In the diag port to ground and it flashed a code 83 being oic fuel relay circuit failure. If I flashed it correctly that's is lol
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Friday, August 3rd, 2012 AT 12:58 AM
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Thats a code reader, not a scan tool. You need one to monitor cranking rpm to see if the crank sensor is operating.
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Friday, August 3rd, 2012 AT 1:01 AM
Tiny
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I have the matco can400 that reads live data but nothing for a 95. The pump isn't turning on even with koeo so the cps wouldn't play into that would it?
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Friday, August 3rd, 2012 AT 1:05 AM
Tiny
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As I said before, yes, the computer looks at the crank sensor ofr signal to turn on the pump while cranking.

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Friday, August 3rd, 2012 AT 1:20 AM
Tiny
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Ok I will look at the cps. What would stop it from turning on for 2 secounds before u crank the engine over ? Sorry not beating a dead horse just trying to keep up with ya
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Friday, August 3rd, 2012 AT 1:28 AM
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That could be the pcm but do basics first before jumping ahead

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Friday, August 3rd, 2012 AT 1:40 AM
Tiny
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Cps sensor tested good. Gonna test for continuity on pcm wire. Do u know what voltage that pcm control wire for the fuel relay should have?
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Friday, August 3rd, 2012 AT 9:20 PM
Tiny
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Ok threw a new pcm in the car relay is back in order car starts an runs and idles but as soon as the throttle is pressed it dies out.. If I rev it reaaal slow I can get it to rev up any ideas.. This car makes me wanna play in traffic
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Wednesday, August 22nd, 2012 AT 9:47 PM

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