Irratic idle/stalls/restarts/dies

Tiny
SIRDUH002
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  • 1994 PONTIAC SUNBIRD
  • 6 CYL
  • 2WD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 60,000 MILES
I have a 1994 pontiac sunbird with a 3.1 multi port engine. It has a new fuel pump assembly and fuel filter, the car starts just fine and drives with no hesitation or surges, when you come to a stop sign or light the idle will drop down and idle rough but will pick back upafter quickly. Although sometimes after the motor is warmed up this problem becomes more and more relevent until the car will just die and you can hear the motor grind to a stop and I mean grind like its ran out of gas or diesling on. After the car stops it will start right back up and you can rev the motor and all, but as soon as you put the car in gear it dies again, any gear but park and neutral. After about 5 or 10 minutes the car will finally stay running when you shift into gear and away you go for about 10 more miles and then the same thing happens.I have let the car just sit and run and the only thing that happens is the idle seems to fluctuate a little but not that much, but as soon as you put a load on it thats when all the problems start again. What really stumps me is how the car dies when you put it in gear but has no problem just running in park with no restrictions. I have been told its my iac control, throttle postion sensor, fuel regulator even my catalitic converter, could you please point me in the right direction.I could understand these sensors and regulators but why does the car keep dieing when it goes into gear but runs fine in park.
Monday, June 6th, 2011 AT 3:13 AM

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Tiny
JDL
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With tranny in park, not much load on the engine. Anytime you suspect a fuel issue, use a fuel pressure gage first. How long since a tune-up? It wouldn't hurt anything to clean the throttle body and iac. Any applicable trouble codes? You can check those, yourself. Also, you can look at the 02 sensor signal, see if it is running rich or lean.
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Tuesday, August 2nd, 2011 AT 4:52 PM
Tiny
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Sounds like a problem with my 89 sunbird. Tranny has a tcc module, that locks converter in 3rd gear. When bad, converter wont unlock, and motor will stall out at too low rpm. Then you have to wait 10 min or so, then it will unlock again, and you can go a little further. I unpluged the conector on tranny, and no more problem. Just dosnt lock up in third anymore." I think thats for better gas millage."
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Thursday, September 1st, 2011 AT 12:27 AM
Tiny
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Let us know what you find.
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Saturday, October 15th, 2011 AT 11:31 PM

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