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Smokes bad on start up

Tiny
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  • 1993 FORD PROBE
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I have a 93 Ford probe 2.0 smokes really bad on start up so I replaced the valve seals and it still smokes but it only does it when its first started but once its warmed up there's no smoke at all do you think it could of just been some bad seals becaue they where some cheap ones from ebay called evergreen and I did a compression test and its 150 in all 4 cylinders
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Tuesday, January 3rd, 2012 AT 3:16 AM

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Tiny
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Yes, the symptoms point to valve seals. But it could also be a small(-ish)leak in the head gasket.
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Tuesday, January 3rd, 2012 AT 6:26 AM
Tiny
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Yes someone told me it could be the piston rings but I would think if it had good compression and doesn't smoke all the time only on start up but it smokes really bad when I first start it up the about 5 minutes it clears out and doesn't smoke at all so I thought if it wad piston rings I wouldn't have good compression and it would smoke all the time
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Tuesday, January 3rd, 2012 AT 7:28 AM
Tiny
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You're right. Bad rings would sow other symptoms. Your symptoms point to valve seals or a minorly blown head gasket. A leak between oil gallery and cylinder, where the leak seeps into a cylinder(s)after the engine is shut down and compression leaks down. Unfortunately, there's only one way to find out which.
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Tuesday, January 3rd, 2012 AT 8:30 AM
Tiny
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Yea I'm just going to get some better seals and try that because the evergreen kit was cheap
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Tuesday, January 3rd, 2012 AT 8:47 PM
Tiny
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And because pulling the head is a major pain.
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Wednesday, January 4th, 2012 AT 12:38 AM
Tiny
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Yea I done it so many times to this car that its not that bad anymore
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Wednesday, January 4th, 2012 AT 1:02 AM
Tiny
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Be thankful it isn't a big block. Do you have a way to pressurize the cylinders so you don't have to yank the head to do the seals?
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Wednesday, January 4th, 2012 AT 1:20 AM
Tiny
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Yea I have a compressor but the only thing is I can't find a tool to fit down beside the spring to compress it every tool I buy Is to big
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Wednesday, January 4th, 2012 AT 1:32 AM
Tiny
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This is similar to what I use.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00947704000P?mv=rr
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Wednesday, January 4th, 2012 AT 3:15 AM

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