1991 Pontiac Sunbird stalling

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It is a possible fix.

Engine off, With the connector loose from the coolant temp sensor, you can use a jumper wire between the two terminals, that tells the computer that the engine is hot. Drive the vehicle, with it fully warm, if it runs ok, then, I think it is the coolant temp sensor.

I can't guarantee anything, because, I can't see anything from here.
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Monday, January 20th, 2014 AT 1:09 PM
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Only problem is my car wont stay running to drive it
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Monday, January 20th, 2014 AT 1:34 PM
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The wires are showing on my temp sensor hook up
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Monday, January 20th, 2014 AT 1:52 PM
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Nice picture, yeah, I'd replace the wiring connector. I still can't rule out the coolant temp sensor?

I've been told before not to post links on my posts. Rock auto . Com has wiring connector for this, you will have to splice the wires. The connector already has the wires embedded, you have to splice wires to existing wires, I believe, 13 or 14 dollars.

I don't know if your local autostore would have that connector or not?
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Monday, January 20th, 2014 AT 2:24 PM
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If replacing the pigtail and that still don't work, any other suggestions, what is the sensor called in my air filter housing
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Monday, January 20th, 2014 AT 2:33 PM
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I had replaced the temp sensor before I noticed the wires the way they are, I am gonna put an new end on and see what happens, hopefully it works
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Monday, January 20th, 2014 AT 2:40 PM
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Without putting a scanner on it, I got nothing else. Even at key on engine off, you can get some info. It will tell you engine temp. With a cold engine, the engine temp and outside temp should be close to the same. If it is way different you have a problem. Whether the problem is the computer--wiring or what?
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Monday, January 20th, 2014 AT 3:14 PM
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So I replaced the wire connector and drove the car down the street and back, it stalled like 3 times, and it surges alot, got the code 15 again.
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Monday, January 20th, 2014 AT 3:37 PM
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Don't know, got nothing else at the moment.
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Monday, January 20th, 2014 AT 4:39 PM
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I noticed as I was finishing up that with the key on fuel was running out of the intake, could this be part of my problem
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Monday, January 20th, 2014 AT 5:01 PM
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You could use a fuel pressure gage to check for correct pressure and pressure leak. You cycle the key to build fuel pressure, turn key off, see if pressure holds for a bit. If the pressure drops like a rock, you have a leak.

I still can't rule out the coolant temp sensor? Did you say the sensor was knew?
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Tuesday, January 21st, 2014 AT 6:51 AM
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Yes the temp sensor is new, and I fixed the broken wire
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Tuesday, January 21st, 2014 AT 7:03 AM
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I'd check for a fuel pressure leak.

As far as the coolant temp sensor, there could be other issues besides the sensor itself, but, I'd check for the correct fuel pressure and pressure leak, first.
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Tuesday, January 21st, 2014 AT 7:09 AM
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I used a pressure tester on the fuel rail, when cycling the key I get 40psi but drops right away with the key on, when key is off I lose all pressure.
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Tuesday, January 21st, 2014 AT 8:05 AM
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If you pull the vacuum line off the fuel pressure regulator, any gas in the line, if so the pressure regulator is faulty.

After you build pressure, just key on, block off the return and pressure lines, if pressure still drops like rock, check the fuel injectors.
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Tuesday, January 21st, 2014 AT 9:18 AM
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I just wanted to add, after you fix it, smell of the oil on the crankcase dipstick. If it smells like gas, change the oil and filter as many times as necessary to get rid of the gas smell.
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Tuesday, January 21st, 2014 AT 2:55 PM
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So I do have fuel in the vac line will this make me have to push peddle to the floor in order to get the car to start
i am going to do another test on it tomorrow with the fuel pressure tester to make sure
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Tuesday, January 21st, 2014 AT 5:49 PM
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I'd replace the fuel pressure regular. See how it goes from there.

If engine is flooded it will make for hard start.
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Wednesday, January 22nd, 2014 AT 8:26 AM
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Plugged off vac line then did fuel pressure test, after cycling the key to get pressure I then turned key off it held its pressure
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Wednesday, January 22nd, 2014 AT 9:25 AM
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Did you change the pressure regulator? If so, maybe that fixed it?
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Wednesday, January 22nd, 2014 AT 1:00 PM

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