Work completed by a shop either caused or was not correctly diagnosed?

Tiny
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Outcome after $2100 paid repair, owner states now wants $5,500+ to replace transmission.
I am a single disabled woman and tomorrow I will be chronologically 68. On May 30 I decided to take my vehicle to be fixed. I chose to go to a shop I had never previously used. The vehicle had started having issues with overheating. Initially I tried Auto Zone for the purpose of discovering what information could be gathered from diagnosing the check engine light. The tech determined simply overheat.

The service advisor called and informed me details noted on photo. Since they had found numerous other issues adding much more money, I asked to speak to the owner before authoring the work. I asked him if I could be certain that if they proceeded the radiator, cooling system and air conditioner would be died and he replied "absolutely".

After driving a short distance I returned to the shop stating it was running ruff and the air conditioning was not blowing cold.

The soonest they could get me back in was 06/05. They did not even look at it until 06/06, when they came up with an additional $550 of work.

They next time I drove it, it was making the same shaking. I called and asked if it would be fine to drive less than a few blocks to bring it back. By the time I got there it was not moving out of first gear. The new front desk person (the one I was working with I was told was fired) called with the news that the transmission would need to be replaced.(06/17). With every use toon his replies became more rude and condescending. I left it that I would need to speak to the owner.

I am an honest, perhaps too trusting person. After reading your posts I fell that they were negligent on many counts and feel I should at least be refunded for $2000 + I paid. I am left with a vehicle that I cannot afford to fix.

At post time I have yet to speak to the owner. My gut told me to do some investigation. The newly hired person stated that there was no negligence because they could not see the future. Nonetheless there are numerous videos the forewarn mechanics that, especially with this year and model, that with any kind of overheat to check the transmission / radiator connection and always replace the radiator with a cap issue.

The vehicle it is their back lot. The second receipt for the word done one the air condition is unfortunately in the vehicle. It was approximately $540.

I have worked hard since I was 12 and was raised that my word is the most valuable thing. If this is simply bad luck as they are claiming I can take it under the chin. My gut tells me otherwise.

If I was your wife or daughter, what is the right honest move? Thanks a billion! I will definitely contribute before this is all done.
Tuesday, June 20th, 2023 AT 4:00 AM

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Tiny
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Hi,

I'm looking at the receipt expecting to see things related to the overheating, but I see many other things as well. For example, brakes, rotors, tie-rod, and then two gallons of coolant and two radiator caps. An oil/filter change. I'm confused.

What are they telling you as far as the transmission? Did they provide you with evidence or a reason they suspect the transmission needs replaced? As far as getting money back, that is a tough one that leans toward the legal system, so I'm not sure what to say, but I still don't see what was done to repair an engine overheating issue.

Let me know.

Joe
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Tuesday, June 20th, 2023 AT 10:06 PM
Tiny
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Joe,

Thank you so much for replying. You are exactly right. I feel so awful because as my Dad would say he sure "say you coming".
They only replaced the cap. I trusted them and that is why I agreed to all the other things. He also gave me 2? Additional estimates totaling around $4000. I could not afford it so he said do it as fast as I could.

The only thin that needed to be done was soil change, service air condition and the overheating. I was shocked he did not replace the radiator. The front brakes
Seemed fine to me. Unfortunately I did not question him.
After only approx 26 miles of driving it would not get out of first and only 6 miles an hour. I was told by the rude Louie the radiator fluid had leaked into the transmission. When I questioned him he blew me off rudely saying there was no way to check if the part that caused the fluid to leak in to the transmission. He continued saying they could not tell the future and I must have bad luck.
Charming

Sorry that was a long way of saying all they did was not enough. The bill says he pressure test for leaks and inspect belts hoses. However there are posts that say you find the problem doing those things. You find a crack with pressure test. So I guess he just changed the cap.
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Tuesday, June 20th, 2023 AT 11:33 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

If it was two gallons low on coolant, it went somewhere. One of the places it can go is the transmission. Inside the radiator, there is a cooler used by the transmission. If the trans cooler in the radiator fails, it can allow coolant to mix with the transmission fluid and trans fluid to mix in with the coolant. Is there anything on the receipt indicating things like the transmission fluid or engine oil was inspected for possible coolant mixing with it?

Joe
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Wednesday, June 21st, 2023 AT 10:27 PM
Tiny
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Joe, there is nothing. The copy I sent originally was everything. I was told that it is not something that should have been checked. Spoke to a few Nissan representatives and they confirmed everything you stated.
Apologies for not getting back to you sooner. I've been suffering from a physical setback from crps, a disease that gets worse with stress. I am very grateful to you for unpacking the truth! Thank you
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Monday, June 26th, 2023 AT 12:02 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

Thank you for the update. That is the only thing I can think of could have happened.

Try not to allow this to cause stress. Although I realize it's difficult, it's just not worth it. Your health is worth a lot more than anything.

I'm here if you have additional questions or if I can help in any way. Please, don't worry about asking as many questions as you want. If I can help, I will.

Take good care of yourself.

Joe
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Monday, June 26th, 2023 AT 9:50 PM
Tiny
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Thank you, Joe, literally you're the best! I have to put the Nissan down and move on. Your answer about the stress is wise. Maybe I'll write a revenge short story.

I'm looking at a '97 Ford Expedition Eddie Bauer edition. Any experience with them?
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Tuesday, June 27th, 2023 AT 4:39 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

I want to read the story when you write it. LOL As far as the Expedition, it really matters where you are located. If you are in an area where there is a lot of snow and salt is used to clear the roads, rust is a concern.

Additionally, I had a 1999 and absolutely loved it until the rust won the battle. It ran great with little to no issues, but it loved the gas station. In town, I was getting 11 mpg, so keep that in mind.

If you know the engine size (4.6L or 5.4L) and the mileage, that will help me. Also, make certain the spark plugs were replaced recently. If they weren't, tell them you want them replaced before purchasing it. These are known to have issues with the spark plug threads in the cylinder head stripping and spark plugs breaking off. If that happens, it becomes expensive to repair.

Take care of yourself and let me know if I can help.

Joe
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Tuesday, June 27th, 2023 AT 7:04 PM

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