When first driving in the Morning the engine acts like it is going to shut off?

Tiny
TRAVIS BUTLER2
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  • 1995 NISSAN PATHFINDER
  • 3.0L
  • V6
  • 2WD
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  • 215,000 MILES
I first take off in the morning it acts like it wants to shut off either not enough fuel or starving for air, but it continues to run. I want to find out what the problem is. I know the engine has a little tick I'm getting ready to fix that but I want to fix this along with any ideas on what could be the problem. Do you think it would be the injectors or the mass flow air sensor or something else?
Friday, April 23rd, 2021 AT 9:34 PM

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Tiny
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Hi,

Does this only happen when the engine is cold? I'm trying to narrow things down. There are several things that can cause this. Low fuel pressure, a faulty coolant temp sensor (ECT), low engine compression, an engine vacuum leak, and so on.

Has the check engine light ever come on while the engine is running? If it does, then you should start by scanning the computer. Next, you mentioned a ticking. If it is coming from an exhaust manifold, that can cause the computer to think there is a lean fuel mixture. As a result, it would make the air/fuel mixture richer and that can cause it.

Interestingly, with heat, the exhaust manifold would expand and the leak may stop allowing the engine to run normally. That is just a thought. I don't know what the tic is or where it is coming from.

Here is what I recommend: First, if the check engine light is on, have the computer scanned for diagnostic trouble codes. Most parts stores will do it for free.

If that isn't on, I need you to get a live data scan tool. Connect it and check the ECT signal when cold to see if it is close to ambient temperatures. If it is, start the engine and allow it to run a few minutes, and then check the short-term fuel trims. Let me know what they are.

Also, you may want to check for engine vacuum leaks when cold. Here is a link that explains how to do it:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-an-engine-vacuum-gauge

Let me know what you find or if you have other questions.

Take care,

Joe

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Saturday, April 24th, 2021 AT 9:53 PM
Tiny
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Yes, check engine light has been on for quite some time but it doesn't have a obd2 connection. How would I do a live read if I can't hook obd2 up? Explain please. But in the morning when I start it I will take audio and send it so you can hear the ticking noise for yourself.
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Saturday, April 24th, 2021 AT 10:41 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

In 1995, they went to an OBD2 system. It should have a DLC. If it doesn't, I guess it could have been produced really early. If that is the case, take a look through this link. It explains how to retrieve codes from Nissan's OBD1 system.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/nissan-obd1-diagnostic-trouble-codes-and-retrieval-procedure-1984-to-1994

If you look at the pic below, it shows the connector. Let me know if you are able to find it.

Take care,
Joe

See pic below.
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Saturday, April 24th, 2021 AT 11:07 PM

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