Transmission not responding on reverse

2010 TOYOTA COROLLA
125,435 MILES • 4 CYL • 2WD • AUTOMATIC
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BLESSING EWOBOR
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Good morning, the vehicle's transmission was slow to respond when it is placed on reverse before, now it is no longer responding at all even though the engine speed is at 5,000 RPMs. I scanned the vehicle but no codes was found on it memory. When it is placed on Drive, it work perfectly. I decided to replace the fluid and the filter but the problem persist. What could be the problem? Is there any test to be carried out?
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Aug 22, 2021 at 12:31 AM
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More than likely the reverse clutch is worn or the line pressure to the reverse circuit is not correct. The fact that this started as a lag and now no engagement means the clutch was slowly failing but has finally given out.

If servicing the unit did not help then unfortunately the next step is to remove the pan and look for metal.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-service-an-automatic-transmission

If you did this and there was metal or debris in the pan then unfortunately we are going to need to disassemble the unit and inspect the reverse clutch and related drums. I would also suggest doing a line pressure check as shown below but I suspect that is fine if the forward gears are okay.

Please run through this and let me know what you find with this. Thanks
Aug 22, 2021 at 5:30 PM
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Thank you sir,
When I drained the oil, on the magnet I could not find metal particles on it, but some black substance that can stain the hand surrounded the magnet.
Aug 22, 2021 at 6:17 PM
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Okay. That is good info. That is burnt clutch material. Was the fluid dark and smell burnt?

If may not have because the reverse clutch is the least used gear so it may not have burnt the fluid before it failed.

Basically I suspect this clutch has been slipping for some time and it finally failed because all that dark substance was the remainder of the clutch material. This means it will need to be taken apart to confirm this is what is happening.

I am surprised there are no codes but that is not required.
Aug 22, 2021 at 7:12 PM
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The fluid is not dark and it does not have burnt smell. The particles that I am talking about just covered the magnet and one can not feel metal particles on it .
Sep 10, 2021 at 5:02 PM
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Okay. That would be particles from the clutch discs. How much was there?

If it was a lot then that explains it.

However, the only other thing that normally causes the slow engagement and then no engagement is a pump issue.

So we should check the pressure and make sure it is correct in reverse. It could be a leak in the reverse circuit inside the unit.

Take a look at this info and let us know what you find. Thanks
Sep 10, 2021 at 5:55 PM
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Okay sir, I will carry out the pressure test.
Sir, the pressure test. Can it be done to all make of Vehicle like mercedes benz, Kia and so on?
Sep 12, 2021 at 6:12 PM
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Yes. The idea of the pressure test is the same but the way in which it is done (tools, access point, etc) are going to be different as well as the actual specs. However, they all operate the same way in that they create pressure and direct that to a clutch pack to apply the gear.

If you have a specific vehicle that you want to do it on, just start a post on that one and we can send the process. Thanks
Sep 13, 2021 at 7:49 AM
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Okay, thank you sir.
Sep 14, 2021 at 12:05 PM
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Good morning sir,
For the hydraulic test, where can someone get the gauge?
Can someone use A/C manifold gauge?
Nov 17, 2021 at 10:28 PM
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Most all parts stores offer a set that would work. Unfortunately, AC sets will not work. I have never tried them, but I think the valve at the end of the line is different for the oil pressure vs the gas of the freon.

Here is a link to a common set:

https://www.harborfreight.com/engine-and-transmission-oil-pressure-test-kit-64872.html?cid=paid_bing|||64872&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=&utm_content=&msclkid=565fa2d8c47313c1c19ac34e57f4b990
Nov 18, 2021 at 10:26 AM
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Thank you.
Nov 18, 2021 at 10:36 PM