Transfer case in neutral?

Tiny
CHARLES KLUNDT
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Had just pulled out went a half mile just like you put into neutral didn't make no noise or anything just like u put in neutral it has a push button on the dash for4wd and a lever in the floor that has 3 positions 2H N 4WL when you push the button on the dash the indicator light will come on in the dash still in neutral when you turn the motor off you can hear it like it is wanting to go in gear but won't. And
Tuesday, August 15th, 2023 AT 5:18 PM

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Tiny
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Hi,

The shift lever on the floor, is it in 2H? Try this. With the engine off, place the vehicle in neutral and shift the shift lever through the three positions and stop on 2H. Place the vehicle in park and see if it works.

Let me know.

Joe
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Tuesday, August 15th, 2023 AT 10:14 PM
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Answer was helpful, but still won't take a gear the shift lever is in 2H with transmission in neutral next position with the lever is N you can hear things changing in the transfer case next position with the lever is 4WL it does nothing when you put the lever from 2H to N the 4tires in the indicator light in the dash light up but the red light in the center of the 4tires that tells you it is locked in won't come on till u put the transmission in gear still won't move you can put transmission back to neutral pull the lever out of 4WL back to N you can hear it doing something in the transfer case again when you pull the lever out of N back to 2H you can't hear it do anything put transmission back in park you can hear a whining noise turn motor off as it comes to a stop you can still hear like it is wanting to go in gear but just won't go sounds like 2 gears grinding is it possible the transfer case has kicked out into neutral and won't go back in 2H or 4WL either open for suggestions. Still I'm thinking when you come from 4WL to neutral you should hear it changing and you do you should also hear it changing from neutral back into 2H but you hear nothing.
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Wednesday, August 16th, 2023 AT 5:15 AM
Tiny
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Keep in mind that when it kicked out into neutral, we never touched the lever in the floor or the button on the dash or the shifter lever on the column everything was where it should be just like you put in neutral.
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Wednesday, August 16th, 2023 AT 5:22 AM
Tiny
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Hi,

Have you checked to see if there is anything broken such as a CV axle or universal joint? If you hear the transfer case engaging, that sounds like it is doing its job.

Just for curiosity, when the vehicle is placed in park, does it hold/prevent the vehicle from moving or does it coast?

Let me know.

Joe
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Wednesday, August 16th, 2023 AT 9:47 AM
Tiny
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It holds in park.
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Wednesday, August 16th, 2023 AT 10:44 AM
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When you move the shifter lever from 2H to N you can hear it changing but it won't make a sound when moving the shifter lever on forward to 4WL when you move it back into N you can hear it move just very little not as much as when you move it from N to 4WL but when you move it back from N to 2H you can't hear it do anything the person I bought it from said that shifter lever in the floor was extremely hard to move in either direction before now the shifter lever moves really easy you can hear it click every time you move it not internally but like on the outside of the transfer case you should be able to hear it changing from the N position back into 2H I think but nothing.
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Wednesday, August 16th, 2023 AT 11:00 AM
Tiny
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If it holds in park, then the transfer case is not in neutral. Which is good news. LOL, Now I need clarification.

The shift lever on the floor, are you certain it has to do with the transfer case? I ask because you have an electric shift 4wd, correct?

If that is the case, then the shifter on the floor should be for the transmission.

Please confirm.

Joe
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Wednesday, August 16th, 2023 AT 7:31 PM
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The shifter on the floor has a 2H position and a N position and a 4WL position. So, I'm sure the shifter in the floor works the transfer case because you can see it going right down in the top of the transfer case. When I move it from 2H to N you can hear the actuator move like it moves twice go on up to the 4WL position. It doesn't do anything as the motor is coming to a stop, the grinding noise that you hear sounds just like you are raking a gear is not coming from the transfer case, it sounds like that noise is coming from the front of the transmission at the back of the motor. Could the bolts have fallen out of the torque converter? You are exactly right if it stays in park, it darn sure isn't in neutral in the transfer case now, I think it's on up in the transmission are there some kind of a switch on the transmission that isn't telling it to go in gear or no sure hope so.
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Wednesday, August 16th, 2023 AT 10:07 PM
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I do have a 4x4 electric switch on the dash that puts it in 4WD because all you have to do to get it in 4WH is just push that button leave the lever that is in the floor in 2H push the button on the dash that says 4x4and you are in 4WH but to get in 4WL you have to move the shifter lever in the floor to N then on up to the 4WL position so now I'm thinking the transmission by it going in Park and holding the car but as soon as you take it out of Park it will roll but will not go in any gear forward or reverse if the bolts had fallen out of the torque converter it wouldn't hold in park either so therefore it just about has to be some kind of a switch on the transmission not telling it to go in gear sure hope I might be that lucky.
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Wednesday, August 16th, 2023 AT 10:22 PM
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Joe, thanks for your patience and trying to help me figure this out. I'm just a country boy that sometimes is a little slow about understanding things. Hopefully I'm explaining the problem in a way that you can understand what is going on. I'll be waiting to hear back from you. Thanks again, you have been very helpful to me thus so far. I think you are going to tell me where my problem is this time thanks again, Ole pal.
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Wednesday, August 16th, 2023 AT 10:33 PM
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Country boy? Welcome to the club. LOL Me too.

Stupid question. If you shift the transmission to neutral, does it come out of park and can it then be pushed or moved as if it is in neutral? If not, then the transmission linkage is where we need to be looking. Take notice if the gear indicator is changing properly.

Let me know.

Joe
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Wednesday, August 16th, 2023 AT 11:26 PM
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Yep, it comes out of park you can push it anywhere you want to.
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Thursday, August 17th, 2023 AT 12:30 AM
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The indicator light works also light in the dash is burnt out in the neutral position but all the rest of them work don't really know if this changes anything or not it is an overdrive transmission 2 all that stuff worked just like it was supposed to though before.
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Thursday, August 17th, 2023 AT 12:36 AM
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Hey Joe, this is Charles Klundt just wondering if you have my Toyota Sequoia diagnosed yet, maybe you are taking a nap. Hoping you might figure this out, in a dream, lol. Think I may have a nap also just funnin I'll be waiting to hear from you hopefully with good news thanks again, Ole pal.
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Thursday, August 17th, 2023 AT 12:46 PM
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Hi,

I did fall asleep last night with the computer on my lap. LOL

If you can shift the transmission between gears, park holds and neutral doesn't, either we have a failed transfer case or there is a problem within the transmission. The idea that it goes to park and holds tells me it isn't a universal joint or CV joint. So, the transfer case is actually in gear, but the transmission isn't turning it.

By any chance, do you have access to a scan tool that can read codes from the can-bus? CAN stands for controller area network. Basically, the different modules are tied together via a few wires. This type of scan will retrieve codes regardless of the module storing them.

Here is a link showing how it's done:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/can-scan-controller-area-network-easy

At this point, either we need to take things apart or hope there is a transmission or transfer case code that will point us in the right direction.

Let me know your thoughts.

Take care,

Joe
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Thursday, August 17th, 2023 AT 6:47 PM
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I literally despise these darn phones had a reply typed out probably 75 to 100 words fixing to hit the send button and lost the whole answer all of it. I think I am sure I did because I can't find it anywhere on the screen on my phone. So 4 the 2nd time hear trying to type you this email 1more time not real keyboard friendly would rather just talk to you on the phone if that could be possible my phone number? I'm in Knoxville Tn I'm thinking you are out on the west coast somewhere if I am looking at my Gmail messages correct u r the 1st person I have ever gmail emailed or whatever might making the communication between us could even be book face. I really don't not like I said I'm not computer smart whatsoever my thoughts on your reply is going to find a scanner and hopefully find some codes that will tell us to change a sensor or two. If so, will start looking for a loose or corroded or broken wire 1st b4 changing any sensors or modules haven't looked at that link yet but I will now if there are no codes found then that means the transmission and transfer case has to come out of the vehicle if that b the case you just as well gather your tool box and catch the next flight out I'll pick you up at Magee Tyson Airport in Knoxville cause God only knows I'm going to need some help may take a little while to come up with a scanner 1quick question does the motor have to be running while scanning the vehicle may tell me in this link how to properly scan it hopefully we can just start communicating by AT&T telephone my fingers have blisters on them n I'm saying your eyes will be crossed several times before you get done Reading this message if I don't hear from you I'll be back in touch with you as soon as I get a scanner to what the outcome is there really hoping it has thrown a code with a bad sensor for the transmission or transfer case take care hope to Hear from you if you are going to call me please send me a text with your name and phone number 1st so I will know it is u thanks again you have been very helpful in your thoughts and opinions about this on what to do take care hope to hear from you soon my friend.
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Thursday, August 17th, 2023 AT 8:22 PM
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Hi Charles, I'm near Pittsburgh. LOL I wish I was near the ocean. As far as texting, I scream every time I do it.

Now, I wish I could call, but I'm required to keep everything online. I'm sorry and hope you understand.

As far as scanning the computer is concerned, the engine will be off, but the ignition key will be in the run position. If you look through that link, it will explain everything. If it doesn't, let me know and I'll walk you through it.

Also, the goal of scanning is to hopefully prevent us from having to remove anything. I'm hoping it is something like a pressure-control solenoid. Something that can be done somewhat easily.

Let me know your questions or thoughts.

Take care,

Joe
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Friday, August 18th, 2023 AT 9:00 PM
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I understand what you are saying I'm really hoping it is something simple like what you said I looked on Amazon n seen the scanner u was talking about probably just order one when I get it I'll get in touch with you hopefully I'll have some good news to give sure hope the transmission n transfer case don't have to be pulled out I guess I can get back in touch with you on this link that we have been talking on until then take care n I'll be back in touch when I get the scanner let you know what it says thanks for all the info you have a great day thanks Charles Klundt AKA Red Dog.
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Saturday, August 19th, 2023 AT 9:46 AM
Tiny
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O yea by the way Pittsburgh ain't to awful bad either I've been there several times throughout the years of my truck driving career I wouldn't mind being somewhere by the ocean either wouldn't really matter to me if it was on the east side or the west was just wondering the pressure solenoid you were talking about if that's the problem can I replace it with out pulling the transmission out hope so thanks again Ole pal for everything chat at you later on
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Saturday, August 19th, 2023 AT 9:54 AM

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