I lost all brakes - A weird brake issue

Tiny
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I lost all brakes - what went wrong - help.



A weird brake issue – any help would be greatly appreciated


Vehicle is a 1987 Toyota 4X4 Pickup, 22RE 2.4 liter 4 cylinder, EFI.

Truck was fine until a rear brake line rusted through and pissed out all the fluid.

I changed the lines (might as well do all in the back). I bled the system since the fluid reservoir went empty.
All the air can out and good pressure of fluid while bleeding. - The problem is we cannot get pressure at the brake pedal.
No pressure while bleeding at all - the pedal goes all the way to the floor.

I than bled the master cylinder, and check for a possible crossed line at the proportioning valve in back.
I switched two line in the proportioning valve, in case I screwed it before anyway.
I bled all wheels again with the engine off, and than with the engine on for the power assist.
No difference - No changes - Brake pedal still going to the floor.

I gave up after attempting to bleed the entire system a total of 4 times.
I's quite obvious that I can continue to bleed to the year 2010, without any improvement.

I know I'm bleeding right since I've owned and service dozen of cars & trucks over the years.
I'm a pretty good backyard mechanic, but I an now totally dumbfounded and clueless.

Remember guys - everything worked perfect before that brake line burst.
Help. Please. - Any ideal would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks in advanced.
Sunday, July 8th, 2007 AT 10:56 AM

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Tiny
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G'day there,

It sounds like a master cyl fault, I would pull the master cyl off and make sure that the brake fluid is not leaking passed the seals into the booster. If that is OK. The master cyl may be by passing fluid internally. It is not un common for a master cly to fail after bleeding, because when bleeding the piston in the cyl is traveling an extended lenght and if there is any pitting in the cly (on the section that the piston & seal do not normally travel over) as seal may have been damaged and that is allowing fluid to by pass, hence no pedal pressure.

Mark (mhpautos)
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Sunday, July 15th, 2007 AT 12:05 AM
Tiny
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Well explained by mhpautos -No further comments needed here. Its right to the T Amen Mark.
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Sunday, July 15th, 2007 AT 12:46 AM

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