AC unit replacement

Tiny
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  • 2007 TOYOTA CAMRY
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  • 41,000 MILES
I have the car listed above SE model. I have always disliked the AC unit in those cars even though I love the car, but I always admitted the one out in the hybrid version (first Image attached), the present AC unit is the second image attached. I am about to purchase it but I am wondering if it would fit or function properly with the SE version. Thank you.
Tuesday, June 12th, 2018 AT 1:46 PM

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Tiny
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Good afternoon.

Why would you want to change control heads? Is there an issue with the functions?

Roy
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Tuesday, June 12th, 2018 AT 2:13 PM
Tiny
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I am someone who loves remodeling, I love redesigning things, I have been said to be doing things extremely. To be candid I just do not the present AC unit design, it is too analog, and the present AC unit works well.
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Tuesday, June 12th, 2018 AT 2:15 PM
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Okay, thanks. Got it.

They are different and the wiring is completely different. This would be a major undertaking with a wire harness, along with components a well.

Are you willing to take on this type of project as it will be huge?

Roy
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Tuesday, June 12th, 2018 AT 2:23 PM
Tiny
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Wow, I did not expect them to be different. How huge, does that mean? Is it possible without any hitch? Also, have you heard or seen anyone do such a thing as I am asking? Thanks Roy.
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Tuesday, June 12th, 2018 AT 2:25 PM
Tiny
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No one I have ever spoken has done this. They just keep the OEM control head.

No, there will be harness changing and adapting to the existing harness as well as different components on the heater housing.

It is possible to do but there will be many hitches that will need to be overcome. Custom changes always have bumps in the road to success.

Roy
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Tuesday, June 12th, 2018 AT 2:35 PM
Tiny
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Darn, I do not want hitches, that will be unpleasant. Thank you so much Roy for letting me in on that, I was this close to purchasing it.
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Tuesday, June 12th, 2018 AT 2:42 PM
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Glad you checked with us first. Do not want to see get into a real bind.

Roy
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Tuesday, June 12th, 2018 AT 2:45 PM
Tiny
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I am glad I did, I have other customization Ideas. I will create a new question and hope it gets answered quick as you did. Thanks again.
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Tuesday, June 12th, 2018 AT 2:47 PM
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You are very welcome.
We are glad to help.

Roy
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Tuesday, June 12th, 2018 AT 2:48 PM
Tiny
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As Roy stated there is a lot of work plus you would need to reprogram the engine and body computers to make them stop showing errors as they communicate with the original control head for the automatic controls. You would also lose the dual climate controls and the automatic temperature system. The actual HVAC box is different as well so you would need to remove the dash to get to the various servos and controllers and determine how to rewire it all to work with the base level controller.
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Tuesday, June 12th, 2018 AT 2:54 PM
Tiny
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Wow, that is intense. I mean I almost would not mind what the engineers would do to make it work, but I would not want any hiccups in the future, dang it, wish I could redefine the whole interior. Thanks Steve.
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Tuesday, June 12th, 2018 AT 11:15 PM
Tiny
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Modern vehicles are rather difficult in that respect because 99% of the controls and hardware are all computer controlled and talk on the communications bus. Take a simple power window. From day one the electric power window has used a very simple system of polarity reversal. The switch gets power and ground and by reversing the way they connect to the motor it turns one direction or the other and the window goes up or down.
The simplest version has two wires to the switch, two wires to the motor. The reversal is done right in the socket that plugs onto the back of the switch.
These days that is all gone. Now the motor gets four or more wires to it, two power and two for the com line (in the more complex there are also monitor wiring to sense if the window is blocked or fully up/down). The switch gets power and com as well. Instead of the simple polarity reversal when you move the switch, a signal is sent to the Body Control Module. That signal is either a different voltage for up/down or a pulse that defines the same. The BCM gets the signal and determines you want the window down. It then activates the transistor output to the window module which activates the down control circuit and down goes the window. Door locks, sunroof, pretty much everything else in that vehicle works the same way. Take the "radio" as another one. Most are far more than just a radio these days. Many newer vehicle use them to program features in the vehicle and if they are removed or you try to replace them you can end up with a vehicle that does not even run because the security system does not see the radio on the network.
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Wednesday, June 13th, 2018 AT 12:34 PM

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