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Tiny
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So I recently bought my vehicle and the man I bought it from said it had all the parts and that all I needed to do was to put it all together and start it up he said it would take me two days if I worked on it all day that was not the case I have been working on it for three months now and it is problem after problem and I am finding I do not have a lot of the parts but I do not know what parts I need to buy or what I need to do on it. If anyone has any suggestions or anything at all it would be greatly appreciated!
Saturday, May 13th, 2017 AT 12:13 PM

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Tiny
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Slow down!

Let's use a number system to explain what all was wrong in the beginning and what has been done! This may make my responses more efficient.

Example

1) found Jeep buried in a mud-hole.
2) replaced this that and the other.
3) cranks but will not start.
Make this as detailed as you can, even if you use 100 numbers, it will really help me a lot!

But,

Answer these first off

Does it run?

Give me an idea of where you are located (near what, is fine!)

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Saturday, May 13th, 2017 AT 8:54 PM
Tiny
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It sounds like you bought a project. Any time someone says, "all it needs is, ... ", you can be sure it does not. If all it needs is a simple procedure, they would have done it so they could sell a running car for more money. They either could not do it properly them self, or they knew the job was a lot more involved than what they were telling you. I warn people against starting projects that I know will end up like this because they always end up sitting in the front yard with a "For Sale As Is" sign in the window.

Photos are always appreciated, but in this case the only thing I can see is some uneducated do-it-yourselfer slapped on an air filter that is much too small, and it is not in the correct housing with all the needed hardware that goes with it. What you need to do is start with one system, and make that complete and correct, then move on to the next system. If you look for missing stuff haphazardly, you can be sure you are going to overlook many individual things. You will have better luck finding a similar vehicle in a salvage yard that you can use for reference.

For example, start with the charging system. Be sure the generator is mounted correctly and the drive belt is in line with all the pulleys. Your generator is a GM unit and in my opinion, it's the second best design after the older Chrysler alternators. Two wires plug into the side of it. The large output wire bolted to the rear should have full battery voltage on it all of the time. One of those smaller wires will also have full battery voltage all of the time. If the "Battery" warning light on the dash turns on when you turn on the ignition switch, that second smaller wire's circuit is working. Now pick another system and approach it that way.

Perhaps the cooling system is next. Check that the radiator fan is turning the right way if it's belt-driven. This is more common when the engine uses the flat serpentine drive belts, and it's easier to do on some Ford engines, but if that belt is misrouted, the water pump can run backward. The clue may be the fan is pushing air forward, which is not correct. Do a pressure test to verify there are no leaks. Remove the upper radiator hose and inspect it inside for signs of rotting. Or just replace the radiator and heater hoses on principal.

The electrical system is done the same way, but there is many more sub-sections, like ignition system, wipers, starter, etc. If you have a crank/no-start condition, do whatever it takes to have a strong spark, then involve yourself with the fuel supply system and be sure that is doing its thing. If the engine still will not run at all, it is time to consider compression and the timing of all the events, meaning timing chain and camshaft timing. If the engine does run well for only a couple of seconds, you will know compression and timing have to be okay. Intermittent stalling involves totally different diagnosis and suspects than for an engine that never runs.

My specialty areas are electrical, suspension and alignment, and brakes. I got a real bad feeling as soon as I saw the butchered air filter. My concern is what else was done that we do not know about. If the ride height was altered, I do not even want to be part of the conversation unless it involves restoring it to factory specifications. With the brakes, there is a real lot that do-it-yourselfers can do to cause problems, and there is a real lot that professionals do during a normal brake job to avoid causing problems. Once we get the engine running, I am still going to be uneasy worrying about what we do not know that could have been modified with the brakes.
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Saturday, May 13th, 2017 AT 9:01 PM
Tiny
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Thanks so much for replying to my question, I am a sixteen year old who just bought his first car from a guy who had been working in it with his friend then they got in a fight and stopped working on it and it sat in a barn for eight years under cover I live in Farmington Utah.
1. I have not started it.
2. It came with no battery or starting coil.
3. Some hoses need to be replaced they are old and brittle.
I do nott know what else to do in willing to take it in to anyone and get help I would really appreciate it if you have any tips on what to look for or what to do to get it started such as what to look for in the ignition system, anything will help thank you!
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Sunday, May 14th, 2017 AT 10:55 AM
Tiny
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My first rig was similar to yours, it was a 1977 CJ-5, Bought that puppy in 1982 shortly after I entered the U.S Army 1st Ranger Battalion.

I have had several since, but nothing else!

My present 1977 has a 258, he has been a daily driver since I got him in 1991 (got my 1946 Willy's close to the same time).

I have pretty much got the 1977 up to 1979 standards (I consider the 1979 the "Peak" for the CJ's, all others were either under or over engineered).

Do you undergo emissions testing in your area?

You have failed to send a few pics of your find! How much did they let him go for?

You have made the best choice ever for a vehicle, if you are like me, you will keep and love him forever!

If you are capable, know basic vehicle stuff, have or can obtain needed tools, xan translate S.C Hillbilly into N.W. U.S.A. Lingo,

Communicate with me on this post only, as I may send you to other CJ posts I have answered in for information you will need (this will keep me from typing this stuff over and over) But please do not answer on those posts, let's stay on this one.(Some folks are still getting help, another feller jumping in, would be confusing) But, please do continue to monitor 'their post' it will continue to help you too!

I am sure I can aid you a bunch! With pictures too!

Really, A 'Real Jeep' is pretty darn simple to repair and maintain.

I feel like many of your problems may be answered In my linking alone!

Just return here and "copy and paste" in things you have questions about or just ask

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Sunday, May 14th, 2017 AT 12:46 PM
Tiny
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Thanks so much for replying and helping me get my jeep running! What do you suggest I work on first to get my jeep running? Or what do you suggest I work in first?
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Tuesday, May 16th, 2017 AT 8:59 AM
Tiny
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Just got in late as crap- Haven't forgot you!

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Tuesday, May 16th, 2017 AT 7:14 PM
Tiny
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Thanks for replying! What do you suggest I work on first?
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Wednesday, May 17th, 2017 AT 3:03 PM
Tiny
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Thanks for the pic, looks pretty good, you will need another seat for them gals to sit in!

How 'bout a fix similar to yours?

This guy has no annual inspections, so things ain't gotta back to original, Do you have inspections?

How 'bout checking out the link (still in progress) Just always come back to this thread to communicate.

It gets confusing trying to answer 2 or more folks on the same post, It sometimes makes the Original asker mad when you "barge in"!

https://www.2carpros.com/questions/idle-not-low-enough-and-rough-on-cj7-jeep

You'll probably see plenty to get started on, Let me know if that will get you started.

I'll be right here! Been here a long time, sometimes get caught up in stuff, but I do finally answer.

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Wednesday, May 17th, 2017 AT 4:08 PM
Tiny
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We have a lot of other parts and another chair hard top etc. But we took it of the do some interior work

Thanks for replying and helping me out!
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Wednesday, May 17th, 2017 AT 5:12 PM
Tiny
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See anything to start on yet?

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Wednesday, May 17th, 2017 AT 6:17 PM
Tiny
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Yes we have inspections, I don't quite know what to start on because we're missing some of the parts that we need to get it started and we don't know what pets we need to buy, we just bought the coil and battery a while back we have also been rebooking the gas tank and gas lines but don't know where everything attaches and what it does or goes to.
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Wednesday, May 17th, 2017 AT 7:49 PM
Tiny
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Exempt for vehicle age?

Only inspected for certain stuff with age of vehicle?

No slack with inspections?

DO NOT CHANGE ANY VACUUM/ IGNITION STUFF UNTIL WE KNOW THE INSPECTION DEAL FULLY!

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Thursday, May 18th, 2017 AT 5:03 PM
Tiny
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Thanks for replying! I found out today that the inspections situation it all has to be up to date with current standards for it to be registered and become street legal
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Friday, May 19th, 2017 AT 2:45 PM
Tiny
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Not sure if that last message went through so I'll send it again, I found out the inspection deal it has to be completely up to date with current standards to be street legal
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Monday, May 22nd, 2017 AT 12:47 PM
Tiny
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I just can't see 2017 standards applying to a 1982 vehicle.

For instance, my '46 has no catalytic converter or seat belts, it originally came with neither, Legally, I am in the clear!

With the situation you have, it might be hard to get it back to '82 emissions standards.

Wanna make sure you are talking emissions and not an annual safety inspection (brakes/ unbroken glass/ turn signals/ seat belts/ etc.)

Got any buddies/ people you can approach that own a CJ '82-'86?

Maybe see what gets checked/ even look under their hood (take pics) Just to see if theirs has been modified. And if it has been tinkered with, do they have any problems when it comes inspection time?

If we can get you thru an inspection (like maybe the other guys MIGHT be doing) I can continue as I usually do. If this is gonna have to be Perfection '82 standards, I can maybe send diagrams from a manual. I'd bet some of those old vacuum parts is obsolete.

Lemme know if you find out any of that info/ pics.

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Monday, May 22nd, 2017 AT 4:23 PM

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