Overheating

Tiny
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  • 2007 FORD EXPLORER
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I changed out the thermostat, after changing this out now my truck is overheating, like crazy. I hear the boiling of the antifreeze, the radiator was not hot only the hose was not hot but you heard the boiling. Now I changed out the water pump, refilled the antifreeze. Still over heating. What is the problem?
Tuesday, November 13th, 2018 AT 3:55 PM

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Tiny
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Good evening.

Was it overheating prior to the repairs?

How did you bleed the cooling system?

What I usually do is to fill the cooling system with the thermostat housing off until the coolant gets to the top. Then I install the thermostat. That gets all the air out of the block.

Roy

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/engine-overheating-or-running-hot

Draining

WARNING: To avoid personal injury, do not unscrew the radiator cap while the engine is operating or hot. The cooling system is under pressure; steam and hot liquid can come out forcefully when the cap is loosened slightly. Failure to follow these instructions may result in personal injury.

CAUTION: The coolant must be recovered in a suitable, clean container for reuse. If the coolant is contaminated, it must be recycled or disposed of correctly.

CAUTION: All vehicles are filled with Motorcraft Premium Gold Engine Coolant. Always fill the cooling system with the same type coolant that is present in the system. Do not mix coolant types.

NOTE: The addition of Cooling System Stop Leak Pellets darkens Motorcraft Premium Gold Engine Coolant from yellow to golden tan.

NOTE: Less than 80 percent of the coolant capacity can be recovered with the engine in the vehicle. Dirty, rusty or contaminated coolant requires replacement.

1. Make sure the engine is cool.
2. Wrap a thick cloth around the radiator cap. Slowly turn the cap counterclockwise (left) until the pressure begins to release.
3. Step back while the pressure releases.
4. When you are sure all the pressure has been released, use the cloth to turn and remove the cap.
5. Place a suitable container below the radiator draincock. Drain the coolant.
Tighten the radiator draincock when finished.

Filling and Bleeding with RADKITPLUS
1. Using the special tool, install the RADKITPLUS and follow the RADKITPLUS manufacturer's instructions to fill and bleed the cooling system.

Filling and Bleeding without RADKITPLUS

CAUTION: Engine coolant provides freeze protection, boil protection, cooling efficiency and corrosion protection to the engine and cooling components. In order to obtain these protections, the engine coolant must be maintained at the correct concentration and fluid level. When adding engine coolant, use a 50/50 mixture of distilled water and engine coolant.

To maintain the integrity of the coolant and the cooling system:
Add Motorcraft Premium Gold Engine Coolant. Always fill the cooling system with the same type of coolant that was drained from the system. Do not mix coolant types.
The addition of Cooling System Stop Leak Pellets darkens Motorcraft Premium Gold Engine Coolant from yellow to golden tan.
Do not add orange-colored Motorcraft Specialty Orange Engine Coolant. Mixing coolants may degrade the coolant's corrosion protection.
Do not add alcohol, methanol or brine, or any engine coolants mixed with alcohol or methanol antifreeze. These can cause engine damage from overheating or freezing.
Do not mix with recycled coolant. Use of such a coolant may harm the engine and cooling system components.

CAUTION: Turn the radiator cap clockwise until it stops (approximately 135 degrees). Failure to tighten the radiator cap may result in engine damage.

1. Fill the radiator through the radiator filler neck until the coolant level is at the bottom of the filler neck.
2. Install the radiator cap.
3. Fill the coolant expansion tank until the coolant reaches the COLD FILL mark.
4. Select the maximum heater temperature and blower motor speed settings. Position the control to discharge air from the A/C vents to the instrument panel.

5. CAUTION: If the air discharge remains cool and the engine coolant temperature gauge does not move, the engine coolant level is low in the engine and must be filled. Stop the engine, allow it to cool and fill the cooling system.

Run the engine until it reaches operating temperature.
6. Turn the engine off and allow the engine to cool.
7. Add more coolant mixture to the coolant expansion tank until the coolant level is at the COLD FILL mark.
8. Start the engine and allow it to idle. While the engine is idling, feel for hot air from the A/C vents.
Hot air should discharge from the A/C vents. The engine coolant temperature gauge should maintain a stabilized reading in the middle of the NORMAL range and the upper radiator hose should feel hot to the touch.

9. Check the engine coolant level in the coolant expansion tank and fill it as necessary.
10. Repeat previous 5 steps as necessary.
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Tuesday, November 13th, 2018 AT 4:16 PM
Tiny
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No, it was not overheating before we changed out the thermostat. We changed it out because it we thought that was the item leaking antifreeze. Then it started to overheat, now we also changed out the water pump, no more leaking but still overheating.
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Tuesday, November 13th, 2018 AT 4:37 PM
Tiny
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Okay, then you need to bleed the system of air. That sounds like your issue.

Roy
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Tuesday, November 13th, 2018 AT 4:43 PM
Tiny
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Roy,

First thanks so very much for getting back to me so quick. I believe we bleed the air, when we start up the truck it is fine, warms up fine and everything. It is not until I drive one block the gauge starts to rise to hot, and it sounds force like it is in neutral and I am pressing on the gas (but I am not, that is just how it sounds). I am not sure, can this maybe be the fan clutch? I appreciate all your information.

Thanks so very much!
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Wednesday, November 14th, 2018 AT 4:56 AM
Tiny
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Yes it can. Is the fan clutch working? Is it locked in?

What kind of thermostat did you use?

Roy
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Wednesday, November 14th, 2018 AT 5:21 AM
Tiny
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Roy

So after changing the thermostat again, (after assuming, the first one was a faulty one). We took it to a Jiffy Lube and did a flush, still saying it is overheating. The fan was not locked at all. However, when the temp keeps sounding like it is being forced to drive, the temperature keeps jumping from H (hot to regular temperature). The check engine does not come on at all, and the engine it is overly hot at all when we open the hood. What can the problem be?
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Wednesday, November 21st, 2018 AT 5:50 PM
Tiny
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I am concerned with this. The temp gauge should not change that quickly.

I am wondering if the sender unit is the issue. I would try replacing it with a new one and see if it still has the issue.

Roy

Removal and Installation
1. Drain the cooling system.
2. Disconnect the engine coolant temperature (ECT) sensor electrical connector.
3. Remove the clip and the ECT sensor.
4. To install, reverse the removal procedure.
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Wednesday, November 21st, 2018 AT 6:21 PM

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