Operational triggers that activate anti-theft mode/no crank no start?

Tiny
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  • 2011 CHRYSLER 200
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  • 166,000 MILES
So, it was really cold like around zero degrees and when I got in car, I felt like for some reason I pushed the key a little too much/too hard/too far that it started but kind of made that little scratch sound in the starter (I think). So, I drove about a mile to the store, got out locked car doors with fob and 15 minutes later when I left the store the fob worked to open doors, interior lights came on but no crank no start and never seen before blinking red circular light under the speedometer is suddenly on. Anti-theft or whatever so I had to leave car all night in parking lot I'm about to go back to try all the options I've researched for deactivating or resetting the security system. I hope something works but I have 3 questions. The guy I bought the car from still has the non fob extra key. If I can get that from him will that work to crank the car? If so, is MY key fob then become something that will reactivate the anti-theft mode making it only valet key compatible till I have another fob made? Third question, do you think the fact that I pushed key too long in ignition originally could have been what triggered this?
Saturday, December 24th, 2022 AT 8:32 AM

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Tiny
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Hi,

First, I don't feel pushing the start button too long would have caused this. Additionally, when the temps get cold enough, it isn't uncommon for a noise to be heard from the starter motor.

Are the lights and everything still working? Does the key fob you have still activate the door locks?

Next, if the original owner has a duplicate key, certainly it is worth a try. And no, your key fob won't force it into valet mode.

Let me know how things turn out for you.

Take care and Merry Christmas,

Joe
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Saturday, December 24th, 2022 AT 5:12 PM
Tiny
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Thank you so much. I went back yesterday and was able to make that red security light go away I guess by manually using key to unlock the door and then put key in ignition to the on position for a few min. Still won't crank. Tried jumping it off but nothing. Then I looked at the digital display screen is indicating that it is in reverse but clearly it is in park. It won't let me move the shifter even with my foot on the brake (which still feels tightened). I bought the car in October and I've always noticed the shifter has a slightly looser feel to it when changing gears than other cars I've had. It doesn't have a strong feel to it it's like when I go from park to drive it will go in neutral and I have to wiggle it around to get it in the drive position or vice versa. So this makes sense that is what made the engine lock up. I guess I cut the engine off too soon before making sure I had wiggled the shifter right and made a good fit connecting into the park position where it can trigger the digital display on dash to indicate it's in park. It's in park now but not enough to reflect that on the digital screen. I thought for sure I would be driving it home but I feel like a curve ball just got chucked at me. Now I guess I'll have it towed to my house but will the tow person be able to get it on the truck bc I've tried and I can't get the shifter to move even with foot on brake. I don't think it's a problem with the transmission itself but more with the linkage. I just don't know what else it could be and I don't know what to do because I don't have the money for a costly repair right now. Do you think I'm right about the linkage and is it something that can easily be fixed fairly inexpensively? What should I do next?
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Sunday, December 25th, 2022 AT 3:37 AM
Tiny
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Hi,

Absolutely, I think you are right. If it is showing reverse, it won't start. The idea that the brake is hard to push is normal because the engine hasn't been running. The power brake assist is done via an engine vacuum. If the engine isn't running, the pedal will become hard to push.

Since it isn't coming out of gear (park) and the brake pedal is hard to press, make sure you are pressing the brake far enough to turn the brake lamps on. The shift interlock is actuated by the brake lamp switch.

I attached the directions for adjusting the linkage below.

Let me know if this helps or if you have other questions.

Take care and I hope you had a great Christmas.

Joe

See pics below.
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Sunday, December 25th, 2022 AT 6:13 PM
Tiny
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Hi, I went back tonight and thankfully the law had not towed the car. The info you gave me was great, I really appreciate it. My 200 doesn't have an obvious button to release the gear shift so I looked up a YouTube video and found that I had to pop the whole plastic piece off and then find the lever thing and push it to release the shifter and it worked! I was so worried I would have to have it towed and then pay so much to have it fixed. I know I still have a semi loose linkage which I will look into fixing shortly but for now I'm on the road and I owe a lot of it to you for making it make sense and leading me in the right direction. Thank you so, so, much because I know next to nothing about cars but now I feel like I could be a mechanic! I hope you had a great Christmas as well!
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Monday, December 26th, 2022 AT 10:00 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

Anna (I think) LOL You are so welcome. It's people like you that make doing this worth the time. I'm glad you got it going. Also, you are always welcome here if you have questions or need help. So, never hesitate to return.

I hope you have a great 2023!

Take good care of yourself. If you decide to work on the linkage yourself, let me know and we'll get through it together.

Joe
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Tuesday, December 27th, 2022 AT 4:27 PM

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