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2002 Kia Sportage Turned the Key this Morning and it wouldn

Tiny
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  • 2002 KIA SPORTAGE
  • 4 CYL
  • 4WD
  • MANUAL
  • 90,000 MILES
Hello,

I went out this morning got in the car, turned the key and it was dead.

So I checked the battery terminals and they weren't all that tight, so I thought, maybe my battery died because they were lose and hadn't charged the battery in a while?

So I got a friend to give me a jump, and after 30 minutes connected! It wasn't any better.

So I got suspicious. The windows went up and down very slow. Like a VERYYY weak battery.

So I turned the key off and then to the Just before Turning over position, and low and behold, the clock got bright like normal, and the windows worked at a completely normal speed like a fully charged battery. So then I thought wonderful! Let's crank er' over.

As soon as I went to start it any and all dash lights went out, the clock went out, the windows went back to slow again until I turn the key of and on a few times and then it just brightens back up.

Please let me know any other information you need to assist you in answering the question.

Thank you.


Ok, So here's an update, I've been working on it all day, took the whole dash apart practically (all around the steering column and when I turn the key you can hear a clicking sound. Well I got to the clicking sound and it's near this huge relay looking thing called a Unit Flasher? Big grey box about 4" x 2" x 1"thick. There are 2 other relays with that one.

I have never even had a HINT of an issue or mis-start or dragging or sticking or anything with the starter.
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Saturday, March 27th, 2010 AT 2:27 PM

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Tiny
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Hi korelian,

Thank you for the donation.

Symptoms indicates a faulty battery or loose battery terminals. Get the battery tested first.
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Saturday, March 27th, 2010 AT 5:56 PM
Tiny
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Hello Pros,

OK, So the battery was at 10.6 volts. Bad news on that part. But SHOULDN'T a Jump have done something? I also stuck a battery charger on it with a 100amp jump start and tried to start it, nothing, just clicking and buzzing. No turn over, and things don't act right.

EVEN though I had a jump, and a 100amp charger/starter on it, is there such thing as a battery actually being faulty like that where that it would act with the symptons I'm having even though I supplied it with juice/amperage that should have turned it over?
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Saturday, March 27th, 2010 AT 8:42 PM
Tiny
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The battery is definitely bad.

When you have a bad battery, a jump start or boost might not work. A weak battery might work but not a bad one.

Power is being drained by the bad battery before it can gets to the starter and ignition system.

Disconnecting the battery and using the direct jump might work though. However if the jumper capacity is low, it might not work as well.

Did you attach the negative jumper cable to the engine part directly? Connecting it to the battery usually does not work.
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Sunday, March 28th, 2010 AT 1:26 AM
Tiny
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Ok, so I left it on a battery charger all night, and it shows.10.6 volts!

I put it on 100amp boost for about 5 minutes. And when I disconnected the charger and removed the leads it showed 12.02. Then dropped to 10.6 in about 20 seconds.

So definately sounds like a bad battery.

No I didn't connect the jump to the engine itself, I never knew to do that. Should I always do that anytime I do a jump?. So it should be to the engine or the frame or what?

And thank you very much for your patience in helping me through several posts. I will definately be recommending you.

This is helpful because I don't have another car to just go here and there so I needed to narrow it down before I determined what I was going to do!

Thank you again 2CarPros
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Sunday, March 28th, 2010 AT 8:31 AM
Tiny
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You're welcome.

Yes, the recommended jump starting procedure is to attach the ground connection to the engine or transmission directly.

Get the battery replaced. One of the internal cell is bad so you woulld get less than12 volts.

When we start on something, we would not stop until we have come to a conclusion so rest assurred that we would be there for you till you fix the problem.
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Sunday, March 28th, 2010 AT 10:28 AM
Tiny
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Pros,

argh, i'm pulling my hair out.

I put the 100 amp Jumpstart on the charger direct with the battery disconnected as mentioned in one of your posts and the car acts the same. Tick-tick-tick-tick-tick-tick-tick when I try to start it. But direct the windows work fine, alarm, etc.

What do I check now? I haven't been able to get a new battery yet which is why I tried it direct ( and I wanted to see if it would do the same thing)

helppppp pleaseee.
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Monday, March 29th, 2010 AT 3:22 PM
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The charger output capacity is insufficient to crank the starter.

Apart from getting a new battery, I don't think you can do anything about it.

Try connecting the battery and let the charger charge it for a few minutes. With the charger negative attached to the engine, try cranking.

When the starter does not turn, release and retry. Do not hold the key if it does not turn.

Since the vehicle is a manual, a push start is possible, unless you are not able to move the vehicle if it is stuck somewhere not allowing it to be moved.
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Monday, March 29th, 2010 AT 4:44 PM

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