Will not crank over

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JOSHCRTS
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  • 1996 GMC JIMMY
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  • 160,000 MILES
Lights will not come on car will not start. I have power from my battery but when I turn the key over no lights no ignition nothing, all fuses are fine in the cab. Cannot locate the other fuse box if there even is one. Need help, tried jumping the battery but still nothing.
Sunday, June 18th, 2017 AT 11:32 PM

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Tiny
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Check the fusible links in picture. One goes to starter relay off of the generator. See picture.
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Monday, June 19th, 2017 AT 7:09 AM
Tiny
JOSHCRTS
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I have check everything all relays but still no power. Alternator is maybe three months old.
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Monday, June 19th, 2017 AT 4:28 PM
Tiny
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Then try another key it may be a security issue then scan for codes. This guide will help you reset the alarm

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-reset-a-security-system

and

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/starter-not-working-repair

Please run down this guide and report back.
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Tuesday, June 20th, 2017 AT 5:22 AM
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KBALLISH601
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I replaced the starter already, but the car still won't crank. It appears o have an after market security system installed, could this be the problem? If not, what else could be causing the car to not crank at all?
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Friday, January 3rd, 2020 AT 2:47 PM (Merged)
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WRENCHTECH
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Yes, it certainly could be that security system You may have to have it removed to find out. They generally interrupt the wires leaving the ignition switch.
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Friday, January 3rd, 2020 AT 2:47 PM (Merged)
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KBALLISH601
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Do I remove everything, or can I cut them and jump the wires?

Also, in looking around, there are 3 wires attached to 3 different fuses, definitely something after market, plus there is a small switch under the dash that was installed at some point. Any idea what the switch may have been installed for?
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Friday, January 3rd, 2020 AT 2:47 PM (Merged)
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KBALLISH601
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In opening the dash more, I discovered that there is an Omega remote car starter. How would I test to see if that's the problem?
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Friday, January 3rd, 2020 AT 2:47 PM (Merged)
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PETER SIELAFF
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Drove car home last night from the dealer where they were checking for a fuel leak and bleeding brakes and everything was fine.
Won't turn over this morning.
I have checked battery and fuses and made sure it was in park.
Any suggestions?
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Friday, January 3rd, 2020 AT 2:47 PM (Merged)
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MASTERTECHTIM
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No noise when turning key? Will it take a jump start? You can try tapping the starter with a hammer while someone attempts to crank it over to free up the starter motor
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Friday, January 3rd, 2020 AT 2:47 PM (Merged)
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You need to get the people that deal in those things to look at it for you

Being aftermarket, we have no info on how it is wired.
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Friday, January 3rd, 2020 AT 2:47 PM (Merged)
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Friday, January 3rd, 2020 AT 2:47 PM (Merged)
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ERIC R.
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The truck cranks like it wants to start but doesn't. When I turn the key over to the on position no dash lights or gauges move or come on and no sound from the fuel pump either not sure if the two are related or not I am thinking that the pump may be bad but not wanting to keep throwing money at the same problem. Can you help in any way PLEASE?
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Friday, January 3rd, 2020 AT 2:47 PM (Merged)
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ASEMASTER6371
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Look at the fusible links at the battery. Your loss of power turning the key on indicates something is wrong. Once you resolve the power issue, I bet the fuel pump will come on line

Roy
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Friday, January 3rd, 2020 AT 2:47 PM (Merged)
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KACIE615
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Last night I drove the truck at night time on about an 8 hour drive and it ran fine. Then the next morning I woke up the vehicle battery was completely dead. We attempted to jump start it by charging it with another vehicle and the battery took the charge. So once again when I placed the key in the run position the lights, powered windows and locks all worked. However when I turned the key all the way to start nothing happened. The key While turned all the way to the "on" made no noise whatsoever. There was no ticking noise and the engine did not even attempt to crank or turnover. At that point a friend of mine checked the battery starter from underneath the truck and while the key was in the on position he tapped the silionoid to see if it turned and it did but we did not attempt to completely start it. Then the next time I put my key into the ignition and turned it all the way on trying to turn the engine over I was also checking to see if my lights dimmed or not. When the key is turned they do dim only at the start position otherwise they Stay bright. However next when I tried to start the car I was holding the key for about 3 seconds in the start position trying to listen for any noise where there would normally be the crank but instead I noticed the steering column began to Lightly smoke!
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Friday, January 3rd, 2020 AT 2:47 PM (Merged)
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If the starter engaged when it was tapped on, then the starter is bad.
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Friday, January 3rd, 2020 AT 2:47 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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I am so sorry I really do appreciate you bearing with me on this one but I know nothing about cars. So I do apologize ahead of time if my questions sound a bit amateur. Alright, Can you please explain to me How I could go about double checking this because when we first tried this I asked my friends why it didn't completely start then like I've heard it does for other people? That's when my other buddy who was there told me that my friend who tapped on it originally didn't do it long enough to let the engine catch. You see now I am sitting here watching my friend attempt to dismantle my steering column to remove my ignition switch because she's under the impression that's what it is due to the smoke coming from the steering column.
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Friday, January 3rd, 2020 AT 2:47 PM (Merged)
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You had smoke coming from the steering column?

You have bigger issues than a starter. You really need to have the car looked at by a professional, not your friends.
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Friday, January 3rd, 2020 AT 2:47 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Yes I di understand that the issue is quite serious however at the moment I am stuck with my hands tied. You see if you can recall in the very begining of these posts I mentioned an 8 hour drive. Well I just recently moved from Orange County CA to Kentucky. (Yes I drove the Jimmy here) however I drove 8 hours the other night to Arkansas in which I am currently still located due to my current issue with my vehicle. Unfortunately, I have no way of getting the proper assistance needed until I get back to Kentucky. That is why I came here to this site in hopes that you guys might be able to help me to find a temporary fix that would possibly get me up and running so that I can get to where things can be better Diagnosed and attended to.
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Friday, January 3rd, 2020 AT 2:47 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Do you think it is going to be helpful if we go and purchase a key lock and switch assembly? Now, "Yes", my steering column did have a second of smoke however the thing that caused it to do that was me holding the key totally turned to the start position for around 3 seconds. Also you should know that Prior to this I was having problems with my ignition switch when I would put my key in the ignition and try to turn it from the locked position it would give me problems sometimes not unlocking for a couple of minutes After many attempts.
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Friday, January 3rd, 2020 AT 2:47 PM (Merged)
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I understand your dilemma but that doesn't change the facts of the situation. Smoke in a steering column usually means melted wires. Melted wires short together and cause more shorts and fires. You need electrical knowledge, testing equipment and the ability to follow a wiring diagram to even be able to determine the extent of the damage. That system has an immobilizer that will be effected if you mess with the ignition lock also.
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Friday, January 3rd, 2020 AT 2:47 PM (Merged)

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