Intermittent PDK P1734 and P1732?

Tiny
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  • 2012 PORSCHE 911 CARRERA S
  • 3.8L
  • 6 CYL
  • 2WD
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  • 55,000 MILES
The car was throwing intermitting p1734 (one of the shift rod distance sensors' errors) and wouldn't go into reverse (while all forward gears still work). If I do a PDK recalibration it would work again, until some random time/miles later it will throw the same code and wouldn't reverse again (talking about possibly hundreds of miles of driving until it fails again).

Thought the sensor was on the verge of failing, had a shop to replace the sensor with t-design unit, 200+ miles later it threw a p1732, and was stuck in the forward gear it was in. Power down the car and restart got it to drive again (with CEL still there) but in a short amount of time error came back again, restarting the car again managed to get it driving normally (with CEL), and managed to get home.

For now, I have cleared the code, reprogrammed the TCU (previously I only recalibrated PDK but didn't reprogram the TCU - I have heard people seeing weird behavior in recalibration which was fixed by reprogramming the TCU so I thought it wouldn't hurt to try), recalibrated the PDK again, drove a few miles yesterday seems to be good for now. But I suspect it will come back up at some point. Looking for ideas/inputs on what could cause it to have shift-rod sensor errors so randomly.

I thought about several possible other causes:
1. Battery - battery is 4.5yr old but is in good shape - overnight still got 12.5v so I can probably rule out a battery problem.
2. Harness/wiring connection issue, although it's somewhat hard to imagine it behaves so randomly, and also the error never pops up over driving over bumps and stuff but always when starting the car/driving smoothly. The shop replaced the distance sensor and saw the distance sensor harness and it looked ok. With the TCU harness/connection, checking it involves pulling multiple interior trims I'm not sure if I can DIY that, I could try to find a shop to do it but obviously don't want to unless I have a reasonable degree of confidence that it might be a possible cause.
3. TCU itself - again I have a hard time imagining it only fails randomly if the TCU is faulty
4. The shop did the sensor replacement floated the idea of maybe the new sensor was bad out of the box, but to think the new sensor is bad out of the box, also behave in a similar way before sensor replacement (error only so randomly / intermittently) makes it think it's unlikely to still the sensor problem but more likely to be something else.

Any thoughts/suggestions?
Tuesday, May 2nd, 2023 AT 9:15 AM

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Tiny
KEN L
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This is what is said about the codes and the PDK:

P1734 refers to an "Intermittent 4-5 Shift" fault,

P1732 refers to an "Intermittent 2-3 Shift" fault,

So, I need to ask if the transmission fluid level is, okay? If so, I would have to think the TCM is going out or the pressure control solenoid needs to be replaced, here is the location of the pressure control solenoid so you can change that out first and I have included how to change out the TCM as well. Check out the images (below). Let us know what happens and please upload pictures or videos of the problem so we can see what's going on.
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Tuesday, May 2nd, 2023 AT 10:30 AM
Tiny
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Hi Ken L, thanks for your reply, but for this particular car, P1731, P1732, P1733, or P1734 means improbably sensor reading on one of the shift rod position (distance) sensors (Too bad I don't have a screen cap of my piwis, but you can see them explained in this thread on rennlist: https://rennlist.com/forums/997-forum/1172826-guide-to-repairing-a-pdk-transmission.html ). And I have the shop replaced that sensor, but the problem is still here (even though the error changed from 4th sensor (p1734) to 2nd sensor (p1732) after replacing, and problem change from cannot reverse to stuck in a forward gear)

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Tuesday, May 2nd, 2023 AT 11:17 AM
Tiny
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Thanks for the link, it sounds like it is having a problem with the dual clutch system or the valve body. You can try the valve body first or just remove the transmission to check the dual clutch set up, you may have a clutch disc that is falling apart which will not allow the transmission to shift gears. Please get back to us with the conclusion. Here is how the valve body is changed out. Check out the images (below). Please let us know what you find.
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Wednesday, May 3rd, 2023 AT 11:14 AM
Tiny
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Thanks again Ken L. Valve body problems are usually associated with a different set of codes. I'm sending the car back to the shop which replaced the shift-rods distance sensor for me, will see what they find and will keep you posted.
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Wednesday, May 3rd, 2023 AT 2:59 PM
Tiny
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Sounds good, please let me know what they find.
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Thursday, May 4th, 2023 AT 11:18 AM
Tiny
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Hi Ken, I have tried to make a reply on another thread to ask for extra info from the original poster of the thread ( https://www.2carpros.com/questions/porsche-pdk-problem-p0700-p1732-etc ).
The website let me submit a reply, and when I checked "my replies", the number of replies of the thread included my replies (15), but when I clicked into the thread, seems like the replies wouldn't show up (showing only 13 replies), what is the right way for me to reply to a thread? (I'm showing the different reply counts in the screen captures below)
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Thursday, June 1st, 2023 AT 1:31 PM
Tiny
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That is because your questions (same subject) have been merged.
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Friday, June 2nd, 2023 AT 9:08 AM

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