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Ignition lock cylinder and Ignition switch?

Tiny
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  • 2000 SATURN L100
  • 2.2L
  • 4 CYL
  • 2WD
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  • 2,500,000 MILES
My car is a Saturn Ls1, but you don't have that on your list of models. But anyway, I bought a new switch and cylinder for the ignition and thought it was going to be a easy put back together type of thing. But no, not with this car. Just a note to you, my key is a non-transponder key, and I had a lock Smith do the lock cylinder to the original key and make another key. Well, I have 2 questions.

1. Can you please tell me if what is shown in the pictures is part of the ignition cylinder sleeve stuck in there (the housing)?

2. Next question can you please tell me where this little red wire that is factory spliced into the bigger red wire that plugs into the ignition switch harness?


Thanks; mommairene1
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Tuesday, October 3rd, 2023 AT 1:11 PM

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Tiny
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Hi,

Looking at your pics, that doesn't appear to belong there. Are you able to remove it? I attached a pic below of what you should see. The two metal pieces that appear to be bent may be part of the actuator blade and simply damaged.

As far as the wiring, that doesn't appear to be a factory splice. The connector in the picture goes to where? That appears to be the ignition switch connector. As far as it being factory, they would have combined it with the larger wire in the connector itself.

Let me know.

Joe

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Tuesday, October 3rd, 2023 AT 7:41 PM
Tiny
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Okay, I need to know what all is part of the ignition lock housing. The actuator pin is that built into the housing or do I need to buy that separately. In your opinion what would you recommend for me to do. Buy a complete new housing? The pictures you send me are not showing me anything that I can understand. Do you not have a actual real picture not a pencil drawing of what it looks like in the housing unit. As for the wire I explained to you that it is 1 of the harnesses that plugs into the ignition switch (left side of steering column below the blinker /head light switch). Do you have any idea what the smaller red wire would hook up to coming from there. 1 person said it may be a wire to the anti theft system. But I am still able to start the car after over riding the system.
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Wednesday, October 4th, 2023 AT 2:24 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

Sorry about the pictures. That is what they provide in the repair manuals.

The items in the pic are integral to the housing. In this case and if you have access to a new housing, that would likely be your best option. It appears things have been bent.

Just out of curiosity, did someone try stealing the vehicle?

Next, the smaller red wire in the pic above isn't indicated on the wiring schematics. That is why I think it is not a factory splice. I'm sorry, but I can't be sure what it would power. I have no idea what was done to require it. I hope you understand.

Let me know.

Joe
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Wednesday, October 4th, 2023 AT 7:56 PM
Tiny
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Thank you, Joe, for your assistance with my issue with the switch and ignition lock cylinder. I was afraid I would have to replace the ignition housing, but sir there is still the question of what is included on the inside of the housing unit. The actuator pin is that part of the housing unit in my make and model Saturn. Or do you think I could just change out that part and use the outside of the housing unit? All the other parts, the ignition lock cylinder and switch are new. Looking forward to your answer. Please don't hesitate to buy a new ignition housing then I will do that.
One more thing. Did you answer my question about where the knock sensor round end goes into?
Thanks,
Mommairene1
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Thursday, October 5th, 2023 AT 11:52 AM
Tiny
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Hi,

I don't recall a question regarding a knock sensor. It may have been answered by one of the others here.

As far as the housing is concerned. The housing actuator is (to the best of my knowledge) integral to the housing. I looked at the pics you originally attached again. It appears everything is bent inside. With that in mind, I would likely replace it.

Please understand, not being there makes this a bit more challenging for me. When I have issues such as this, I inspect everything to determine if there is a possible repair. I just don't see the possibility in the pic.

I wish I had a better answer, but I feel it's best to replace it.

Let me know.

Joe
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Thursday, October 5th, 2023 AT 5:48 PM
Tiny
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I appreciate your honesty and I was thinking the same thing. I was just trying to see if maybe I could get away with just putting in inners in the housing unit. Thank you very much. As for the knock sensor I thought I had already been talking to you about that. I'll have to go back through my emails and see who it is I was speaking to. Have a good day. And again, thank you.
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Friday, October 6th, 2023 AT 8:21 AM
Tiny
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Excuse me but I have another question. Something else is happening with my car and I don't have a clue as to what would be causing it. My fan hasn't been coming on very much lately, but it did today, and it just seemed a bit more louder, plus when it shut off the car. Please help me. It seems like this car is not wanting to work with me. I'll be waiting.
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Friday, October 6th, 2023 AT 3:54 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

I have a favor to ask. We try to keep the threads specific to one topic, so they are more helpful to others. I would be more than happy to help, but could you start a new post?

Here is the link to start a new one:

https://www.2carpros.com/questions/new

I hope you understand. Also, when you repost, let us know if the engine was overheating, if it restarted right away after it stalled, or anything you can think of. If the fan is louder than normal, it may be in the process of failing.

Again, I hope you understand.

Take care,

Joe
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Friday, October 6th, 2023 AT 8:53 PM

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