I have questions about some weird items I see in the engine compartment?

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ALEX STATHAS
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What is the tiny red wire that is wrapped around the vacuum hose that connects on top of the intake manifold where the Nissan label is located, and the other end of that vacuum hose connects to a thing on top of the throttle body with an electrical connector on its left side. So, what is that thing or sensor and what does it do? Also, that thing has a smaller vacuum hose on its right side and that vacuum hose has a tiny green cap on the other end so what is that tiny green cap and what does it do? Also, I see an electrical connector right next to the air filter housing and I don't know what it is for, I see that the oil filler cap has no gasket on it, is that okay? And why is the ignition coil next to the oil filler cap labeled M on top of it and what does the M stand for? I supply an image to make the above questions easier to answer as I can see this image on my desktop all the time and I cannot identify the above parts, thank you very much in advance for helping me identify the above parts on my desktop computer image which I will post below.
Wednesday, April 5th, 2023 AT 1:27 AM

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Good morning, ALEX STATHAS

The vacuum line with the green cap is actually a test port for your Evaporative Emissions System or EVAP for short. This is where you would put a smoke machine to test for a leak in the EVAP lines.

The thing on top of the throttle body with the 2 hoses going into I believe is the Canister Purge Valve for the EVAP System. This valve only operates when the engine is running and up to operating temperature. The PCM will send an electrical signal to open the valve and allowing fuel vapors from the EVAP canister to be burned in the engine.

The connector next to the air cleaner looks like it is a Mass Air Flow Sensor. This one probably has an Intake Air Temp Sensor built into it as well.

As for the "M" on the ignition coil, I'm not sure. Maybe someone was trying to diagnose a misfire condition?

The red wire doesn't look like it goes to anything. Can you follow it and see where it goes? It almost looks like it is holding up the harness that goes to the Purge Solenoid, maybe they broke that clip whoever was in there.

The oil cap should have an O-ring on it. I have added a picture of it for you. If it doesn't just grab one from the dealer it should be under $10.00.

Here is the part number:
161193AN1D

Hope this helps.

Thank you,
Brendon
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Wednesday, April 5th, 2023 AT 7:54 AM
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Thank you very much Brendon S, I had heard about the evaporative canister purge solenoid but I mistakenly thought it was inside the gas tank to regulate fuel vapors and I thought that only the idle air control solenoid was bolted on the throttle body and I mistook the throttle body mounted canister purge solenoid for an idle air control solenoid and I had also heard that this model has an electronic gas pedal that is not cable operated so I mistakenly also thought that the canister purge solenoid might have been the electronic gas pedal actuator, as for the mass air flow sensor I knew there was one right after the air filter housing but I remembered them from cars of the 1990s as being round and bulky and very large with multiple wire electrical connectors so I could not differentiate this small mass air flow sensor from the round bulky large ones that I saw in cars of the 1990s, this photo that I downloaded in my question above and I also have on my desktop background or wallpaper this photo is not really exactly the photo of our own Nissan Versa because I don't have the technological savvy to take a photo with a computer's camera and instead I found this photo in the bing images search website by typing 2014 Nissan Versa SV engine and the engine photo had popped up in the website from a car dealer website, last month I did a bulk synthetic oil change at Walmart that I do every three months and I was focused on the new oil filter and the oil level dipstick which are located underneath the intake manifold that I couldn't remember the green cap on the throttle body that you explained as an EVAP test cap until I saw it on the bing images search website photo above but I remember that in our engine we have no red wire around the throttle body and I remember that the ignition coil next to our oil filler cap had no lettering on top of it and no M so the bing images search website photo ignition coil might be an aftermarket ignition coil and the oil filler cap on our engine is an AutoZone supplied Duralast oil filler cap, thank you for enlightening me though Mister Brendon S. Alex Stathas
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Wednesday, April 5th, 2023 AT 3:05 PM
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Good morning, ALEX STATHAS,

You are very welcome I am glad I could help. If you need any further information please do not hesitate to let us know.

Thank you,
Brendon
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Thursday, April 6th, 2023 AT 3:42 AM
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Mister Brendon S. Thank you for identifying the throttle body mounted evaporative canister purge solenoid valve and the green fuel vapor testing green cap but I see something large up there that I cannot identify, specifically I see a very large container that is located between the evaporative canister purge solenoid and the mass air flow sensor right on top of the very short air intake hose located after the mass air flow sensor and before the throttle body and right above the green test cap and that large container has a very large vacuum hose with a very large hose clamp connected to it and its vacuum hose leads to the valve cover among the oil filler cap and the two ignition coils that are on each side of the oil filler cap, I was wondering what is that large container and what does it do and what does its large vacuum hose bring to the valve cover, for your convenience I will download the Nissan Versa engine's photo again you know the photo I got from the Bing images search website, Thank you in advance for your information on that unknown large container.
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Friday, April 7th, 2023 AT 2:00 AM
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Hello ALEX STATHAS,

Hope you are doing well. According to my information this is part of the Positive Crankcase Ventilation or PCV system of the engine. It removes blow-by gases that are built up in the engine using engine vacuum sucking them into the combustion chamber where they are burned. It is part of emission control but also keep gaskets and seals from blowing out from the pressure in your crankcase as well as preventing sludge build up. This area doesn't have the valve. The PCV valve on your engine is on the passenger-side of your valve cover. Intake air is drawn into the valve cover and through the PCV valve on the opposite side of the valve cover under normal operating condition. Under high load conditions it uses both to draw gasses out of the engine.

I have added a couple pictures for you.

Thank you,
Brendon
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Friday, April 7th, 2023 AT 12:47 PM
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Thank you for informing me Brendon S. As I had mistakenly thought that the large vacuum hose between the throttle body and air flow sensor was pushing air to the valve cover, now I know that this vacuum hose draws blow-by gases from the crankcase and PCV valve to the engine intake manifold plenum runners, and the PCV valve is located on the opposite side of the intake manifold on the lower side of the intake manifold which is not visible on this bing images website photo that I have on my desktop background or desktop wallpaper, I actually saw this PCV valve on our car and it's a little blue item located just above the intake and exhaust variable valve timing solenoids which also are not visible on the internet photo, we do 3 month or 3,000 mile bulk synthetic oil changes at Walmart but we only put 2,000 miles in 3 months on our engine so we do it at 3 months because they come first before the miles, I am wondering can a clogged PCV valve cause the engine to seize up and will our frequent regular bulk synthetic oil changes help the PCV valve last longer? And if the engine seized up how much would a used engine cost to have installed and can the cost be financed and if the used engine is running with noise will Walmart refuse oil changes due to the noise and force us to go to Mobil 1 Lube Express which wants 5,000 mile oil changes? Thank you very much in advance for your information Brendon S. Alex Stathas
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Friday, April 7th, 2023 AT 3:23 PM
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Hello ALEX STATHAS,

So, your close the PCV Valve is located on the passenger's side of valve cover I have included a photo for you. Under normal driving conditions you were correct, air does go from the intake to the valve cover and exit through the PCV Valve on the passenger's side of the valve cover and travels back to the intake via another hose. However, when under heavy load conditions such as wide-open throttle sometimes referred to as WOT, gasses are sucked into the intake using both hoses.

For the oil changes. Nissan recommends every 5,000 miles so doing it sooner is really good for your engine. It keeps it clean and running at its best. I have an Altima myself I change the oil every 3,000 miles or 3 months as well. To me 5,000 miles is too much. I have seen Ford's that the oil gets changed every 10,000 miles. To me I don't see how this is a good idea.

The PCV System relives crankcase pressure. Without it, it will cause oil leaks by pushing out seals and gaskets. It also can increase oil consumption by allowing oil to enter the engine and be burned. This can lead to performance and fuel economy issues. It can also cause sludge to build up on the valves and pistons, put stress on bearings and build oil up in cylinders causing a misfire. So, it can cause an issue and it is possible it could seize up the motor, eventually but more indirectly.

As for when to replace it, Nissan isn't giving me a certain interval and most manufacturers don't. To be honest with you doing early oil changes you probably won't have to ever change it. I would check it every 4 oil changes myself. I just take it out and shake it. If you can hear it rattle, then it is good if not it needs to be replaced.

I will say this though, this part is under or around $10. If it goes overlooked and clogs it can cause costly repairs and irreversible engine damage. So, if you want to replace it at a certain interval like say every 15-20k miles or maybe every 6 oil changes it's a small price to pay to keep your engine running at its best. Definitely a part that shouldn't be overlooked.

Engine replacement cost can vary widely depending on your location and the shop that does the work. It also depends on how many miles are on the used engine and its condition. Used Nissan versa engines are selling for anywhere between $400 and $2200. Then the shop will mark it up and replace on time parts like gaskets as well as replacing some hardware, coolant, oil etc. Then it also depends on the shops hourly rate some are over $100/hr others are closer to $70/hr at say about 8 hrs or more. If it's done at a dealership, I would say around $4,000 and a local shop would be probably closer to $2,000 but it depends on what they pay for the engine.

As for Walmart refusing to change your oil because of engine noise it's possible but I do not know their policies. But it's a possibility due to liability issues. Also no one can force you to go anywhere you don't want to and I can't imagine a place refusing a job. If you under the service interval but you're paying, then I don't see why they would refuse the work. Unless you have some kind of aftermarket service program that is paying for the work being done then it is at the discretion of the service company. I personally would find a good Nissan dealer and go there. Nissan service advisors have a score called KPI. I forget what it stands for, but these advisors work hard to make you happy their job depends on it and if there is an issue, they will make sure it's fixed or it's on them. Nissan uses this to see how dealerships are performing and the owner and service manager hold them accountable. Plus, you get the OE filter which I definitely suggest as all filters are not made the same way.

I hope all this information is helpful. Please let me know if I can clarify anything or help any further.

Thank you,
Brendon
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Saturday, April 8th, 2023 AT 8:07 AM
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Mister Brendon S. Your last reply gave me another question which is how long would an engine with a bad clogged PCV valve last before sludge formation overcomes it and can the 3 month and 2, ooo mile bulk synthetic oil changes we do at Walmart help clean out the clogged PCV valve caused sludge? I am asking because I see that tools are needed to access the PCV valve and not only I don't have any tools but the repair shop labor rates are costly and prohibitive while at Walmart they give us a discount on the bulk synthetic oil change which at Walmart it's $55 dollars compared to $90 dollars at Pep Boys, I am also afraid that if I try to access the PCV valve myself I will mess up the vacuum hoses and I will cause stalling at idle, Thank you in advance for your information Brendon S. Alex Stathas
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Sunday, April 9th, 2023 AT 3:40 AM
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Good morning, ALEX STATHAS,

It's hard to tell really how long any part on a car will last as there are many variables that can go into it. For instance, I have seen a Nissan CVT needing replacement at 5,000 miles and others last over 150,000 miles. Now this is more likely an issue with production, but I think the main factor or at least the one you can control is proper vehicle maintenance. It sounds like you are doing a great job keeping up on your vehicle so you may never even have to change the PCV. Frequent and early oil changes will leave your motor very clean and prevent a lot of problems. Unfortunately, I can't give you a time frame though. With you doing the oil changes early like you do, I would be surprised if you ever had sludge in your engine.

If you don't feel comfortable doing something, then it is best to pay someone else to do it. I recommend the dealership since these guys and gals are factory trained and know these vehicles in and out but that also comes with a higher labor rate.

I will say that with the extra hose that the system has if your PCV valve gets clogged the gasses will still be drawn into the intake and burned. Also, you would notice things like oil leaks, poor performance, and fuel economy dropping if it is clogged.

Best advice I can give is keep up with your maintenance and drive it like a Cadillac. Nissans are very well-made vehicles in my opinion. I own a 2018 Altima; I do all my own service on time and have never had one issue with it. I am at about 87,000 miles. We have driven to Memphis, Key West, New York. Longest drive was 36hrs non-stop and the car was perfectly fine.

I am adding the maintenance schedule for your vehicle for you. Just so you can keep an eye on things. You should be able to find this in your service manual as well. You can have these items done earlier than what the listed mileage says on these. This is just to help make sure nothing is missed and keep your vehicle running at its best.

Thank you,
Brendon
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Sunday, April 9th, 2023 AT 4:42 AM
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Mister Brendon S. I don't mean to get nosy and ask you personal questions but you voluntarily disclosed to me that your vehicle is a 2018 Nissan Altima with 87,000 miles on it and you have driven to Memphis, Key West, and New York with it, so may I ask if you have ever changed the PCV valve on the Nissan Altima and how much does the Nissan car dealer charge for a PCV valve replacement and if you still have the original PCV valve have you noticed any sludge inside the engine whenever you open your oil filler cap to add oil? Have you noticed any sludge either underneath the oil filler cap or inside the engine around the oil filler cap area? Also earlier you told me that our 2014 Nissan Versa SV which also has 87,000 miles on it, you told me that our engine's oil filler cap should have an O-ring underneath it, do you notice an O-ring underneath your 2018 Nissan Altima's oil filler cap? Please reply to me if you don't feel that the above questions are too personal and too nosy since they refer to your Nissan Altima but I just wanted to compare your Nissan Altima to our Nissan Versa as far as it concerns the PCV valve, engine sludge, and the oil filler cap's O-ring, Thank you in advance for your information, Alex Stathas
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Sunday, April 9th, 2023 AT 12:25 PM
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Hello ALEX STATHAS,

Oh, it's no problem at all, you're not being nosey. I have never changed my PCV valve. Most dealerships will put it in for free if you are there getting an oil change you just got to pay for the part they should charge labor. It is a very easy job takes about 5 minutes. I do have an O-ring on my engine oil cap. I have not noticed any sludge at all, but I also do my oil changes early. Every 3,000 or 3 months whatever comes first. Nissan recommends every 5,000 miles but I won't wait that long. The car runs great. I have had no issues. I am going to do my plugs soon so I will probably change out the PCV at that time. The part is around $10 or so. It definitely wouldn't hurt if you did it at your next oil change.

I am adding a picture of what your oil cap should look like.

Thank you,
Brendon
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Sunday, April 9th, 2023 AT 12:42 PM
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Mister Brendon S. You told me that you will do a tune-up on your Nissan Altima soon, do you have any idea how much does a Nissan car dealer would charge us for a tune-up on our 2014 Nissan Versa SV? I am asking because I am noticing that the intake manifold plenum is right on top of the two of the four ignition coils and the only ignition coils that the intake manifold plenum doesn't obstruct or impede are the two coils on the left and right of the oil filler cap and I see that the entire intake manifold and attached throttle body and all connected vacuum hoses must be removed to access the ignition coils and spark plugs, also there is a risk that inexperienced mechanics might mess up the vacuum hoses and cause stalling problems and another risk that the same inexperienced mechanics might forget to put an intake manifold gasket between the intake manifold and cylinder head causing yet an additional vacuum leak and I have heard that because the gas pedal is electronic and not cable operated its idle speed will be upset if it is disconnected, is it worth the risk doing a tune-up or is it better to live with the old spark plugs and the performance problems that they cause? Once again I will download the internet photo of a 2014 Nissan Versa SV engine to show that only two of the four ignition coils are visible in the photo the two next to the oil filler cap and the other two ignition coils are hidden underneath the intake manifold plenum, thank you in advance for your information Brendon S. Alex Stathas
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Sunday, April 9th, 2023 AT 1:42 PM
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Good morning, ALEX STATHAS,

I am sorry I can't advise on the price of a tune-up because it varies dealer to dealer, shop to shop. What state you are in and what you have done for work.

I would call your local dealer and get a price quote.

Usually at least at the dealerships I have worked at, work is handed out based on experience. So, since the intake needs to be removed, they aren't going to let an oil change tech do it because it's a liability. Also, those guys are usually hourly but the guys with the experience get paid flat rate. Which means they get paid 0.5hrs for the plugs and 1.0 hrs to remove the intake, then if the throttle body needs to be removed, they get 1.0 hrs for a relearn procedure. (These aren't actual numbers just using them for example purposes) So to keep their experienced techs the shop manager or service advisor will give a job like this to him/her because not only can they do it faster and better which keeps the customer happy, but the tech just earned 2.5 hrs of pay for less than an hour of work.

Also, if there is a problem bring it back and have them fix their mistakes on their dime and they will.

If you leave the plugs in and they start to act up because the eventually will. It will cause misfires which lead to bad fuel economy, destroyed catalytic converter and fuel in your oil. Unburnt fuel will wash the oil of the sides of you cylinders and could cause engine damage. It will also make its way to the catalytic convertor, and it will literally burn inside of it destroying it.

So no don't skip out on any maintenance and just call your local dealer and get a quote.

Thank you,
Brendon
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Monday, April 10th, 2023 AT 4:50 AM
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Mister Brendon S. I have heard that the spark plugs on a 2014 Nissan Versa SV can last 100,000 miles because they are coated with durable platinum and iridium metals and I also heard that the car dealer recommends 100,000 mile spark plug replacement on this model and now I only have 87,000 miles on it so could I please buy myself some time before I am entangled in an expensive tune-up that would mess up the vacuum hoses and the idle speed of the electronic gas pedal or is there also a time limit in years before the 100,000 miles is reached just like the Walmart recommendation for oil changes that if the three month time limit comes before 3,000 miles then it should be changed in three months even if it is less than 3,000 miles, so is there a time limit on the spark plugs and could frequent and regular synthetic oil changes help out with the oil dilution by misfiring spark plugs, Thank you in advance for your information Brendon S. Alex Stathas
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Monday, April 10th, 2023 AT 6:30 AM
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Good morning, ALEX STATHAS,

I think there is a little confusion here. I am doing my plugs because I want to since I will be doing other maintenance at the same time. I had a misfire issue a few weeks ago and decided to put some new ones in during my next oil change where I also have to do my air filter, cabin air filter, and cleaning up my battery terminals.

I suggest that you follow Nissan's recommendations for the service intervals for your vehicle. So, wait until the 100,000-mile service interval and do the plugs then and you will be fine.

One thing I learned when I was young was "If it isn't broke, don't fix it."

Meaning if there are no issues just follow your maintenance intervals as the manufacturer has recommended.

Thank you,
Brendon
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Monday, April 10th, 2023 AT 6:56 AM
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Hello Mister Brendon S. Once again I don't mean to be nosy or to ask personal questions but may I ask did the misfire on your 2018 Nissan Altima did the misfire give you any troubleshooting codes on this special fuel injection and distributorless ignition compatible diagnostic scanner and also did the misfire leave an illuminated check engine light on the dashboard and also did the engine shake around in the engine compartment while idling? Will we get the above warnings before we need a tune-up on our 2014 Nissan Versa SV before the engine seizes up due to oil dilution? Thank you in advance for your information Mister Brendon S. And reply if you don't feel that the above questions are too personal for you, Alex Stathas
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Monday, April 10th, 2023 AT 8:41 AM
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Hello ALEX STATHAS,

No, it turned off in a day or two. Ran a little rough but runs fine. It was only at idle. I didn't even bother putting my scanner on it to find any codes as I can tell when an engine is misfiring just by the feel of it. You shouldn't get any warning lights and it shouldn't misfire as long as you continue to do all the proper maintenance recommended by Nissan. If you have a misfire the engine light will illuminate but with you changing your oil early like you are, I highly doubt the engine will seize or have any problems at all.

Your taking care of it very well and like I said just follow Nissan's maintenance schedule and everything should be just fine. Proper maintenance is the key to prevent issues and you are already doing that so no need to worry. Just keep up the good work.

Thank you,
Brendon
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Monday, April 10th, 2023 AT 9:36 AM
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What does the brake master cylinder housing underneath the brake fluid reservoir and behind the positive battery terminal contain? I heard it's a piston but does that piston look the same as an engine piston? Oh I forgot to greet you before starting this letter so good afternoon Mister Brendon S. I will again download the internet photo of a 2014 Nissan Versa SV engine compartment so that you can see the large positive battery terminal, the brake fluid reservoir, and the brake master cylinder underneath it, thanks, Alex Stathas
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Monday, April 10th, 2023 AT 1:31 PM
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Good morning, ALEX STATHAS,

It does have pistons in it but no they do not look like the pistons in your engine. I have added a few images for your reference.

Thank you,
Brendon
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Tuesday, April 11th, 2023 AT 5:48 AM

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