Will not crank over?

Tiny
CHLSMITH
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For the third time in a month, my 2003 Honda Element has failed to start. This morning, I had to swap cars in my driveway, so I moved out my other car, backed the Element out, and put the other car back. When I got back in the Element, it wouldn't do anything.

No lights come on inside the car at all (no dash lights, dome lights, etc.) No sound is made when I open the door with the key in the ignition. The brake lights, flashers, and horn all work. When I turn the key, there are no sounds made whatsoever and the engine doesn't even attempt to start.

This has happened two other times. The first time, I replaced the battery, to no avail, but after a few hours, the car started. The second time, it failed next door to a dealer, so they pushed it into their garage. They found nothing wrong, but suddenly it started just fine. I took it to a Honda dealer, who said there were no errors in the event log, no blown fuses, and they couldn't find anything wrong with it.

The only other thing I can say is that today, when it failed, the dials on the dashboard had not gone back to 0. Even though the car wasn't started, the RPM dial still showed that it was at 1000 RPM. Also, the gas gauge was down to show 1/4 tank, as opposed to going all the way to empty like it normally does when you turn off the car.

Any ideas here? I don't want to keep paying diagnostic fees to just have the dealers tell me that everything is fine.
Sunday, March 1st, 2009 AT 7:44 PM

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Tiny
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Hi chlsmith,

Seems you have a bad ignition switch or power supply interruption to it. It could be a loose connector from main fusebox underhood to the ignition switch.

Intermittent problems are not easy to diagnose and problem has to be there to find the cause. I would suggest checking wiring connectors first, llok out for signs of overheating and loose connections.
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Tuesday, March 3rd, 2009 AT 10:12 AM
Tiny
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The mechanics at the dealer think they have figured it out. The main 100 Amp fuse had a hairline fracture. Since the car wouldn't start, they were able to actually see the problem and get an error code to tell them that it was a fuse problem. They replaced the fuse and all seems to be okay.

Now it's only been 24 hours since I got the car back, so it may happen again. It sounds to me, though, that you were on the same track.

Thanks for your help!
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Tuesday, March 3rd, 2009 AT 12:26 PM
Tiny
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It has power, lights come on engine even turns over, just won't start. Trying to find out if maybe the plugs got soaked with gas. Going to go to parts store to buy a spark plug socket.
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Sunday, January 8th, 2017 AT 11:12 AM
Tiny
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Have you checked for codes inn the computer? Also check to see if you have spark?
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Monday, January 9th, 2017 AT 7:00 AM
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How do I check the codes?
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Thursday, January 19th, 2017 AT 7:08 PM
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KEN L
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Here is a guide to help you.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/checking-a-service-engine-soon-or-check-engine-light-on-or-flashing

Please let us know what happens so it will help others

Best, Ken
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Sunday, January 22nd, 2017 AT 10:02 AM
Tiny
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2003 Honda Element Automatic

When I try to turn the car on, it cranks and makes the noise like its going to start, just doesnt turn over. If I press the gas a little when I try starting, it will usually start. I just replaced the battery last week. What else could it be?
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Tuesday, December 31st, 2019 AT 5:27 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Check and test the coolant temperature sensor and fuel pressure if its within specs-
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Tuesday, December 31st, 2019 AT 5:27 PM (Merged)
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:) im a girl, with no guy in my life. Is this something you think I can do on my own? If so, how would I go about doing it?
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Tuesday, December 31st, 2019 AT 5:27 PM (Merged)
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It could be a bad IAC valve.
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Tuesday, December 31st, 2019 AT 5:27 PM (Merged)
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No start has new starter battery checked good no crank at all no noise nothing lights come on fine with everything else ran a wire from starter to a flip switch with wire from wire on switch started just fine is it the ignition switch natural safety? Please help
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Tuesday, December 31st, 2019 AT 5:27 PM (Merged)
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KHLOW2008
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Automatic or manual transmission?
Is the security light blinking?
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Tuesday, December 31st, 2019 AT 5:27 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Auto trans 2wd 2.4
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Tuesday, December 31st, 2019 AT 5:27 PM (Merged)
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Green key light is blinking when key is in hear a ticking sound on relay switch (big block fuse) when trying to start an a buzz sound in side car
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Tuesday, December 31st, 2019 AT 5:27 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Sorry I seem t have missed this out. Never did get any notification of any replies made to it.

The green key light blinking means the security system has not been disarmed and this would not allow you to crank.

Check all fuses and ground circuit connections for a start.
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Tuesday, December 31st, 2019 AT 5:27 PM (Merged)
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Once every few months the engine turns over fine but the car won't start. When I take the key out there is a loud clicking noise from behind the glove box and the key light flashes. After 15 minutes or so the clicking stops and the car will start. I took it to my mechanic andt hey changed a relay behind the glove box but it didn't help
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Tuesday, December 31st, 2019 AT 5:27 PM (Merged)
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There are a couple of relays behind glove box, 2 are pgm relay 1 and 2 check those for corrosion. It may be a security issue as well so try resetting security system if no manual look online.
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Tuesday, December 31st, 2019 AT 5:27 PM (Merged)
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My Element starts up every morning. If car sits for more than 24 hours it acts as if it has a very weak battery and barley turns over. After a couple of tries the car starts up and no more issues until it sits for more than 24 hours again.
Replaced battery with a new one but same results.
Brought car to honda dealer, they checked the sysytem and gave me back a printout showing everything is okay from battery--alternator to starter.

I also checked for anything that might be draining battery like a light left on but can't find anything that is being left on.
Can anyone tell me what may be the cause?

Thanks
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Tuesday, December 31st, 2019 AT 5:30 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Could be bad connections, starter motor slipping or it has an excesive parastic draw
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Tuesday, December 31st, 2019 AT 5:30 PM (Merged)
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I am having a similar problem. Except I replaced my battery about 8 months ago with a cheap Walmart battery). Sometimes it turns over, other times it does not. Usually when it is warmed up is when it doesn't turn over and I have to let it sit. It is getting worse. Battery, alternator, starter all tested ok at AutoZone
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Tuesday, December 31st, 2019 AT 5:30 PM (Merged)

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